Former World Champion Steve Collins is....

J W Pepper - Cheers mate. I know a 155lb cage fighter called David 'Speedy' Elliot who had about half a dozen fights on cage rage who told me this guy broke his jaw, cheek bone and nose in a sparring session. I also know a former two time IKF light cruiserweight world champion called James Watling who used to spar with him and confirmed he was a huge puncher and a quality pro. He fought Kev Smiles who was a top 5 contender for years and he nearly KO'd him at one point and took him the distance and he was UK champion himself.

Ok he was a kick-boxer and a bit past it but he was still a hard *******. Steve Collins broke a bouncers jaw not too long ago. Retired and older fighters are still really hard and this guy spent months training for this. I was only 19 in my first fight.

 

From a thread on a kick-boxing forum from 5 years ago: http://message.axkickboxing.com/index.phtml?action=dispthread&topic=18999&junk=1151268942.3934

Report PostGary Wilkinson
Posted: 2006-06-25 15:55:42
The Northeasts Zhengdaolo Club deserves a mention.
Steve Jessop and Freddie Ibbotson have trained many
champions over the years, and continue to..
Examples: Mark Greener was British Heavyweight champion,
Steve Ibbotson IKF European, and still active, James
Watling and Kevin Smiles (does no-one wanna fight these
guys?).

What with Spartans Sunderland also having good fighters
Andy Burton and Michael Johnson, as well as those from
Lincoln, has me dreaming of a north Vs south match up.

 

Proof that he fought on one of Matt Skelton's undercards (Iwas told he fought on a few) ok it says that he lost but he was up against a quality and expierience pro.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/features/kick_boxing_triumph_for_skelton_and_jones_1_936013

 

That's James Watling before his first wold title fight and where he beat Bill Jardine a few years ago. He told me that Mark Greener was Super Heavyweight British champion and that he's still in shape:


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmtN558qiD4[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbDw990dPw8[/ame]

 

That's David Speedy Elliot who told me Mark Greener went physco and broke his nose, jaw and cheek bone in sparring.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNXSj_sNOiY[/ame]





http://www.mmauniverse.com/fighters/dave-elliot-5452

 

Think I've put enough proof now tbh. Kick-Boxers get little coverage but I know myself what I was told even by Mark Greener himself after the fight. He actually didn't believe it was my first fight + I don't see how he's different to those guys?? He might not have been as good but he was still 43, younger than a half of the ones I mentioned who were fighting for titles. Like I said, add Steve Wraith on face book and tell him you'd like an un-licensed boxing match with Mark Greener on his next show, your travel should even be payed for. See how well you do. :good


You've only made me want to train harder so I can come back and post this cage fight on here to rub it in your face, won't be long.

 

Yeah I know. I let him know straight to his face infront of people that I thought he was a ***** though and he is obsessed with his reutation. I just said "Your always on North East tonight saying Mike Ashley's a money grabber but what are you, you liar. You lied to a 'friend' to sell tickets and make money." + Your spot on about the amature boxing and I only got £150 for this.

 

Thanks a lot for the support mate.