FOTY Anti-Freedom Edition

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    In a world where Americans are not eligible for awards, Ring Magazine publishes a list of the best fights in each year consisting of...


    2014 Francisco Rodriguez Jr vs Katsunari Takayama
    2013 Giovani Segura vs Hernan Marquez
    2012 Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao IV
    2011 Delvin Rodriguez vs Pawel Wolak
    2010 Giovani Segura vs Ivan Calderon I
    2009 Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Cordoba
    2008 Israel Vazquez vs Rafael Marquez III
    2007 Israel Vazquez vs Rafael Marquez II
    2006 Somsak Sithchatchawal vs Mahyar Monshipour
    2005 Ricky Hatton vs Kostya Tszyu
    2004 Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales III
    2003 Acelino Freitas vs Jorge Barrios
    2002 Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales II
    2001 Toshiaki Nishioka vs. Veeraphol Nakonluang II
    2000 Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales I
    1999
    1998
    1997 Sirimongkol vs Tatsuyoshi
    1996 Orlando Canizales vs Sergio Reys
    1995 Saman Sorjaturong vs Humberto Gonzalez
    1994 Katsuya Onizuka vs Hyung Chul Lee
    1993
    1992 Azuma Nelson vs Jeff Fenech
    1991 Chris Eubank vs Nigel Watson II
    1990 Sung Kil Moon - Nana Konadu I
    1989 Zaragoza vs Banke I
    1988 Chang vs Ohashi II
    1987 Bassa vs MacAuley I
    1986 Lora vs Vazquez
    1985 Myung-Woo Yuh vs Oh Kon Son
    1984 Jose Luis Ramirez vs Edwin Rosario II
    1983 Salvador Sanchez vs Azumah Nelson
    1982 Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
    1981 Pedrosa vs Ford
    1980 Kim vs Mathebula
    1979 Alexis Arguello vs Alfredo Escalera
    1978 Betulio Gonzales vs Guty Espadas
    1977 Carlos Zarate vs Alfonso Zamora
    1976
    1975
    1974 Duran vs De Jesus II
    1973 Rafael Herrera vs. Venice Borkhorsor
    1972 Ohba vs Amores
    1971
    1970 Carlos Monzon vs Nino Benvenuti I
    1969 Rose vs Rudkin
    1968 Chartchai Chionoi vs Efren Torres I
    1967 Vicente Saldivar vs Howard Winstone
    1966
    1965
    1964
    1963
    1962 Fighting Harada vs Pone Kingpetch I
    1961
    1960 Jose Becerra vs Alphonse Halimi
    ...

    1930 Jackie Kid Berg vs Kid Chocolate I
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

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    So they still bungle this one even with Americans excluded, eh?
     
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  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar Albarado is from Uvalde, Texas.
     
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  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Nuts!

    I kept the picks that didn't include an American, cross referenced with their list of 100 greatest fights and added a few foreign fights I'd seen or heard of. Gatti is Canadian and Ruelas is Mexican so I kept them in. It was a good fight too. Would you have preferred Tua vs Ibeabuchi perhaps? Or do you have your heart set on Joichiro Tatsuyoshi vs Sirimongkol Singwancha? I have to admit, this thread was prompted by that other one you mentioned that fight in. I just watched it and it's a good one.

    Of course, you are welcome and encouraged to supply your own alternate fights if you disagree. That is actually the conceit of this thread. So many people complain about American bias on this forum I was curious what they thought boxing history should actually look like.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

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    :good

    I think Gatti vs. Ruelas is a fine little dust-up, but it just isn't even close between it and Sirimongkol vs. Tatsuyoshi, IMO.
     
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  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I was sort of hoping that Flea Man, VicJofre_Brazil, or Flo_Raiden might pop in here and give some insight into the great fights abroad or the little men of the sport. Figured by posting this thread in the know-it-all section of the forum the boxing historians would be coming out of the woodwork to show each other up. But maybe making lists of great fights, isn't the classic sections thing? Perhaps, they'd rather speculate about what old diminutive fighter would beat a Klitschko, or whether Ali would beat Mike Tyson?

    Flea Man told me two years ago to check out Fighting Harada vs Pone Kingpetch I and boy, he wasn't wrong. That's exactly the kind of fight I want to see as a boxing fan. Two guys who are all business, know what they're there to do and get to work; boxing bell to bell from the first round, flying out of their corners, with even a little fighting after the bell. A+ stuff. I've added it above.

    I've got five spaces to fill in the seventies but I should be able to plug them with something by Duran, Monzon, Napoles, Arguello, Canto, Gomez, Zarate, or Gushiken. I'm also going to have to watch Sung Kil Moon vs Nana Konadu to make sure it's better than Chris Eubank vs Nigel Benn for 1990. Also, 94 has some competition: Onizuka vs Lee or Tatsuyoshi vs Yakushiji. Bassa vs MacAuley might take 1987, but I'm a little ****ed how hard finding a suitable candidate for 2002, 1999, and 1998 is being. Do I just stick Barrera vs Morales II in 2002 and then I've listed all three fights of their trilogy? I've also heard that Masao Ohba vs Orlando Amores might be what I'm looking for for '72.

    As always, any help or opinions are more than welcome.
     
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  7. Foxy 01

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    Didn't anyone ever tell you Gatti was Italian / Canadian, who only lived in New Jersey whilst he boxed, and moved back to Canada when he retired?
     
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  8. jdempsey85

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    One of my favs from the late 70s Alberto Sandoval vs Alfonso Zamora
     
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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Think of this sort of like how the Academy Awards has a Best Foreign Film category.
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

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    You should reread what you quoted and realize why pointing this out was completely unnecessary.
     
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  11. venbox

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    Lewis - Klitschko from 2003 clearly beats Freitas - Barrios in a FOTY contest
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

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    I don't know if that is cut and dry, actually.

    It was HW FOTD, certainly, but Freitas vs. Barrios rocked.
     
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  13. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    You wrote,

    So they still bungle this one even with Americans excluded, eh?

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    So we have a fight between an Italian / Canadian, and a Mexican which happened in 1997. There are no Americans there, so I fail to see the " bungle "
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :patsch

    Try again.

    Where in what you quoted of me do you see any confusion on my part as to whether either of them is American?

    Or are you unclear on the definition of "excluded"?
     
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  15. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    No, I'm unclear on your definition of " bungle ":think

    Please feel free to attempt to give me a lesson in the ENGLISH language, and its different contexts. after all isn't your location part of New England?
     
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