fought under famous name/famous after death

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by burt bienstock, Oct 18, 2010.

  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    18,285
    Likes Received:
    399
    I had a famous boxing name.Was considered unbeatable, until sickness took over. Lost my first fight to an alltime great after not losing in first
    63 bouts.Became immortalized after death...Who was I ?
     
  2. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    15,628
    Likes Received:
    30
    Pep?
     
  3. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    18,285
    Likes Received:
    399
    Not Pep.Sickness did my guy in!
     
  4. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    11,604
    Likes Received:
    290
    Nonpareil Jack Dempsey actually fits, when going by the Ring Record Book. Fleischer did not count the two failures to knock out Billy Baker as defeats. George LaBlanche's 32 round knockout resulted in Dempsey retaining the middleweight title on the grounds that LaBlanche used an illegal pivot punch. That brings the Nonpareil up to 63 fights when he loses the title to Fitz. Burt, I don't know if he's the answer you're looking for, but if not, let's eliminate him so we can further proceed.
     
  5. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2007
    Messages:
    6,292
    Likes Received:
    53
    Pancho Villa. Fillipino Bantamweight.
     
  6. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    18,285
    Likes Received:
    399
    D, you are correct...It is John Kelly who became the original Jack Dempsey "the Nonpariel ".Dempsey by all accounts was unbeatable until the early ravages of tuberculosis and a prime Bob Fitzimmons, who took the title
    from Dempsey in 1891...He is also known by his famous bout with George LaBlanche,when LaBlanche missed a punch and came back with his elbow
    on Dempseys chin knocking him cold.This illegal blow became known as the "pivot" punch and was banned from boxing thereafter.
    Dempsey died in 1895 from full scale tuberculosis, and became immortalized, from a famous poem written for him.It's a tear jerker D...b.b.
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    11,604
    Likes Received:
    290
    Perhaps someday, a sequel poem will answer M. J. McMahon's tribute, which assured that the Nonpareil would not remain forgotten after all.

    "But ages hence shall save
    The memory of that poor Irish lad
    That fills poor Dempsey's grave"
     
  8. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    18,285
    Likes Received:
    399
    D, The full poem is beautiful ! If I could get on a time machine going back
    to see the prime Nonpareil Jacki Dempsey in action..It would be akin to
    the Rosetta's stone. The riddle of the calibre of fighters of Dempsey's time and after would be solved...b.b.
     
  9. EireFightFan

    EireFightFan Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    0
    The greatest Irish fighter of all time. Just googled the full poem and it's enough to bring tears to your eyes.

    "Overgrown with firs and lichens,
    I found Jack Dempsey’s grave.
    O Fame, why sleeps thy favored son
    In wilds, in woods, in weeds
    And shall he ever thus sleep on,
    Interred his valiant deeds."

    I guess threads like this answer that question.