Found this rare sparring video (De La Hoya - Chavez)

Only an idiot, and they're many on ESB, does not give Manny Pacquaio the credit he deserves for being one of the greatest boxers in our lifetime. So kindly, go back to watching Floyd fights.

 

DLH struggled because of his stacked era as they all struggled, no one came out unscathed and with a 0 in their losses column. I know that's very hard to comprehend today but try.

 

You are delusional, how can you say ODLH always challenged himself. The only time he ever did that was when he tried to be a singer. Which I'm sure you know all to well about, I bet you also think he got robbed and should have won a grammy for his garbage ass album. :rofl

No **** fighters have advantages and disadvantages over others you jackass, my point here is that ODLH had advantages other than height, weight, etc. I mean advantages that can't be measred you fool. For instance. He never gave Fernando Vargas a shot at him until Vargas got brutally knocked out by Trinidad and became a shot fighter. Your gonna tell me he challenged himself figthing Arturo Gatti at welterweight? What about when he wanted to make "history" by beating Felix Sturm for the middleweight title? I'm sure ODLH did not expect for Strum to actually come to fight. But your not gonna tell me ODLH didn't hand pick Sturm to become a middleweight champion. What about the time when he fought Javier Castillejo instead of Vargas for a jr. middleweight title. Steve Forbes was a challenge? What about Yori Boy Campas, did ODLH challenge himself there? What about when he challenged himself fighting a street fighter like Mayorga who had just gotten knockout by Trinidad 2 fights before? How the **** was picking Pac a challenge coming into the fight ODLH was the clear favorite? He got his ass beat for not preparing well, that was a fight he should have won just like the Mayweather fight. Fights he is supposed to win, he doesn't or struggles big time and fights he is supposed to lose he does. How is that a great fighter? He's won how many titles at how many different weights? It's quality over quanity, he has bs titles by beating bs guys like Jimmi Bredahl,a past his prime Jorge Paez at lightweight, an old far removed from his prime Chavez at jr welterweight, should have lost to Whitaker, Javier Castillejo at jr. middle and Sturm a middleweight for the WBO title. Your lying to yourself if you think ODLH always challenged himself and fought the best. He fought big names which is different from fighting the best. WHen he did fight prime fighters, fighting at their best weight, aka the best (Tito, Mosley, Hopkins) he got beat. You sir, need to be surgically removed from Oscar's nuts.

 

This video proves a prime Chavez kills Oscar.

 

You need help

 

Listen dumbass !

Im not disputing Pacquiao`s greatness... Im saying that DESPITE Pac`s greatness, Oscar expected an easy fight due to the enormous SIZE difference (you following me dumbass, or have I confused you again ?) & it backfired on his ass.

Anyway... for the record....

Chavez > Mayweather > Pacquiao > DLH

Thats all !

 

Did you not get the part where Chavez made DLH wear pillow gloves to not get hurt?

 

Yeah right.
You've built Chavez up in your mind to be a superman.

I would say they are all somewhat equal. It would make an interesting thread on how these fighters would match up h2h in favorable weights. I never understood the Chavez idolatry and maybe never will. I say he gets by some of those fighters and loses to some as well.

 

Video dont Prove **** Delahoya was 126 to a 130 lb teenageratsch THis Video proves as much as their fight in 98 When Chavez was past it. Which is nothing.

 

Thank you sir.

 

It proves Oscar cant take it to the body, ask B-Hop. Theres no doubt a Prime Chavez wouldve bodied a prime Oscar.

 

At the end of the day, Chavez will always be ranked higher than Oscar, that is the one thing we do not need to guess at.

 

:good

 

It was a staright right that sent Oscar to the canvas, not a body shot, the same staright right Narcisco Valenzuela landed and dropped him when Oscar was a PRO fighter.

Getting KD is no big deal in sparring.

 

Im just messing with you Oscar boys. Viva Chavez!