Fourth Fight. Feedback/ Opinions?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by whatamiat, Apr 14, 2010.


  1. whatamiat

    whatamiat New Member Full Member

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    Hi long time lurker first time poster here.

    I had my fourth fight last month (started boxing in September 09).
    The first 3 were stoppages in the first and second rounds.
    This is the only fight of the four that lasted the distance.

    I think I done a fair bit wrong so id be interested to hear your opinions/criticism/advice etc!

    The guy 2 inches taller than me at 6'6.

    (EDIT: Im in RED)

    The guy who recorded it split the first round into 2 videos:
    Round 1 part 1:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt5CEG45cxk[/ame]

    part 2:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0CQ87EF0i0&feature=related[/ame]

    Round 2:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eelVDUiR9vc&feature=related[/ame]

    Round 3:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oo47uo-iEE&feature=related[/ame]

    Cheers.
     
  2. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, it's against my religion to give southpaws advice, but what the hell:

    Your opponent was godawful.

    You tend to circle your hands back low after you punch. Work on that before you get in with a counterpuncher.

    Also, when the other guy punches, you tend to step back, or (worse) lean back. That's just asking for it. Work on that before you get in with a pressure fighter.

    One thing you might work on is movement. You seem flatfooted and you tend to attack and defend in straight lines. Get up, bounce around, circle. Go in to attack, but instead of backing out, try to get off to one side of the other guy and keep hitting him. It's awkward, but very, very effective. You look like you have some power, so this will work for you if you get used to it.

    Also, I love how you take his headgear off and kick it. Owned.
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    ^^^ What he said ^^^

    You seem to be waiting an awfully long time to let your punches go...try and be first, stick the jab out and feint. That guy was quite bad, but you made him look better than what he was...straight punches (1-2 etc) and you would have made easy work of him. The reason I say straight punches, I realise you threw plenty of 1-2's, but they were quite wreckless when throwing them...you were reaching quite a bit, but every time you threw them you had your chin high up in the air which caused you to be off balance.

    Flatfooted as KillSomething pointed out - when you had him against the ropes, or when you let your combinations go whilst he was covering up, you were flatfooted and square on...if you don't want to be knocked down or knocked out...I suggest you work on this before your next bout.

    You've only had a couple bouts though so you have plenty of time to work on and improve in different areas. Good luck in your next bout.
     
  4. spion

    spion Active Member Full Member

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    This is constructive criticism only and points out some things I would have you work on by first pointing out a tendency and then a possible solution.

    As sometimes happens in the higher weight divisions, you and your opponent loaded up on most of your shots and ended up in some wild firefights where technique goes out the window. In many of these situations you were punching while at the same time leaning back thereby nullifying most of your power and leaving yourself open to counters.

    You definitely have the bollocks to wage war anywhere in the ring but that kind of fighting takes a toll. Be smart and move in behind your jab to set up your attack. Practice doubling and tripling the jab so your opponent doesn't time a counter punch. Use different pace on the jab also by snapping it out and back quickly as well as (when in position such as opponent against the ropes) step in and land it like a power shot.

    Also work on moving your head. You want to be able to use slight head movement to avoid a punch while still being in position to punch with full power and speed. To do this you have to practice keeping your eyes open while someone throws punches and practice moving just enough to avoid the punch. This is done in the gym with a partner or on the various bags (slip bag ala Mike Tyson). Ducking in the same way, just a slight bend of the legs not leaning all the way over. Remember avoid the punch with the slightest movement necessary and keep your body in balance and position to counter. Also, if you are going to disengage don't back straight up. You keep yourself lined up for the opponent to step in with power. Practice slipping or ducking out to the side and then move away.

    Footwork. Not everyone is Muhammad Ali. Your footwork is more like Joe Louis. Joe ruled the division for 11 years. Joe had power in both hands but always used his jab to set up his attacks. He also used the jab to keep his opponent from just walking in and bombing away. Work on the jab and then work on it some more. Pacing and power and then throwing in bunches. You don't have to bounce around the ring if that is not your style but it will help you quite a lot if you will throw punches from different angles instead of from directly in front of your opponent. A subtle slide to either side followed by a combination will enable you to land and not easily be countered. Practice in the gym before sparring, perhaps on the mitts or just on the heavybag. You will find once you get into the ring your are more difficult to hit and your punches will land cleaner. No big slugfests in the middle of the ring.

    Once you have practiced your jab, your head movement and throwing punches from angles your ring generalship will improve. In the clips you provided, both of you are waiting on the other to make a move. You should be in full charge out there asserting your skills on the opponent and noticing how he fares. Punish him with your jab and then use it to set up devastating combinations thrown from angles. Deftly slip his punches and counter immediately with short crisp punches to keep him from getting brave. Improve your whole game, offense and defense. After you have been working on these techniques for a few weeks, have someone record a sparring session and you can assess how you are coming along.

    Best of luck to you!
     
  5. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    Let us focus on the first ten seconds

    you appeared tight with the rigid positioning of your arms

    your footwork was not footwork but dont worry most amateur boxers
    in the novice area have bad footwork
     
  6. whatamiat

    whatamiat New Member Full Member

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    What do you mean by rigid positioning of arms?

    What should I do to work on footwork?

    Thanks for the advice everyone.