Fox PPV: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Miguel Ángel García Cortéz & David Benavidez vs. J'Leon Love RBR.

I found myself only scoring the 2nd round for Garcia, gotta give him credit, stepping up from 135 lbs. to challenge a talented (and big) Welterweight Champion.

 

Are you the Real Pernell “Sweet Pea” Whitaker?

 

I watched the PPV & recorded it I never heard any thing detrimental about Tony Only thing they said was his fight with Pac drew a bigger crowd in Cowboys stadium than Spence - Garcia

 

Nope, I wish!

 

Punch stats:

TOTAL

Spence 345/1082 (31.9%)
Garcia 75/406 (18.5%)

 

Throwing around you DKSAB isn’t cool.

Hey most people disagree with you.Who cares?

 

Uncool for most plebes, but not for me.

This isn't the first time I've been the lone voice of reason in the wilderness and surely won't be the last.

Nobody is denying that Spence, as the naturally much larger, younger and more athletically gifted man took over and wound up dominating the whole second half...nor even that he clearly won every round from the fourth on (and you could even argue he won round three onward, as that was the closest of the first three) - but in the first two rounds he accomplished literally exactly diddly-squat. Nobody else watched those rounds without any commentary or crowd noise besides me. I like Mikey but I'm not a raging fan-boy of his or anything, nor am I a Spence hater (look through my thread history, I've made very flattering threads on him before). I'm true blue neutral in this one, so there's no bias. In the first two rounds nothing happened, but of the very little that did happen the best way to describe it was Mikey outboxing Errol, throwing & landing next to nothing but landing one or two of the three or four jabs he threw with serious intent - while people watched the bigger, younger, heavily favored man throw more jabs only to have ninety-something percent of them caught on Mikey's palms and just convinced themselves he was already winning. He wasn't. There isn't a round for Spence until 3, no matter how badly he broke down the older smaller man from then on. Those are the facts, Jack. People get too caught up in the "narrative of the fight" BS - and seeing Errol in real time as winning the first 2-3 next-to-nothing-happening rounds as they unfolded just because he's "supposed to"...and then in hindsight painting a picture of him pitching a shutout - more neatly and conveniently fits the narrative. But there's no such thing as the "narrative" of a fight. That is malarky conconcted by TV commentators to drum up interest & ratings. Scoring boxing is more nuanced. Each round exists in a vacuum alone. Round 1 exists as its own individual 3-minute fight in which almost nothing happened but Mikey won it on defense, generalship and yes like one or two jabs. Round 2 was clear for Mikey, and round 3 very close. Round four was the beginning of Errol taking control and by the championship rounds he was spanking Mikey's ass for each individual three minute session. That's what happened, narratives be damned.

 

It doesn't matter if you gave Mikey 0, 1 , or 2 rounds, the simple fact is Spence thoroughly dominated the fight and it wasn't close to competitive. Personally, I couldn't find a round for Mikey, he didn't work, he didn't let his hands, he didn't get inside and he came to survive, not to win. Spence was quicker, sharper, stronger and better in every way possible. I thought coming in Mikey could land counter left hooks over the top of Spence's jab, but Errol was way too sharp and way too fast and he wasn't lunging in hard with the jab like he has in the past. I love Mikey, but I was very concerned for him coming into the fight last night because I didn't like the way he got hit at 140 by a pretty raw, untested Lipinets. Mikey belongs at 135. Disappointing fight, but really not surprising.

The only thing lamer than using the tired ”DKSAB” is people who get angry with anyone who disagrees with their opinion and thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Anyone that thinks their opinion carries more weight than someone else’s is a delusional, ignorant individual.

 

True...And in those first vacuum, Garcia did less than squat.

He may have landed one glancing jab in the first round. Everything else he threw was either picked off or rolled with. Spence landed a couple of glancing straight left (one to the body and one to the head), and at least one or two jabs. Neither landed a particularly high percentage in the first frame, but Spence was doing enough to convince Garcia to keep his hands at home and got him to bite on a couple of feints.

Second vacuum was close, with Garcia landing arguably the best punch of the round, a left hook but Spence landing a couple of shots with the rear hand in return. It's probably the only frame that I would have considered giving to Garcia, but even then I though Spence's jabs were a bit sharper and more effective in terms of keeping Garcia at bay.

And the third round, Garcia went back to doing less than nothing, while Spence started to land punches in combination, defended well, and in general bossed the frame. It was the round that provided us with insight as to how the rest of the fight would go, since it was the frame when he clearly took over.

The fact that Garcia was arguably more competitive than expected against Spence in the first two frames than expected shouldn't detract from the fact that Spence still landed more shots that caught my (and most everyone else's eye) in at least two of the first three frames and really had control of the fight from the start.

The problem with being the lone voice in the wilderness is that sometimes it prevents you from seeing the forest through the trees.

 

You mean that’s how YOU saw it.

There is not a correct way of scoring a close round in boxing.Fans shouting that there is dont help.

 

Karma is a *****.

 

LDBC are an absolute laughing stock... Spence is basically a southpaw Golovkin minus his power! They spent years digging out triple G! Especially for 'dragging' a smaller guy up... same with Loma (at least Brook & Rigo where in condition!) Now they're all over this guy!! A move in straight lines, physical, pressure guy who methodically dissects u working behind the jab, but who is prone to being hit & looks quite static at times. I personally think peak GGG was more formidable than Spence is but hey ho.. Some of the thick ****s have been saying for years this guy would KO the likes of SRL, Crawford, GGG, Canelo.. LOL

Same dickheads too that have been saying an old GGG was 'backed up' by Canelo.. Wtf was happening to Spence then?? By a FLABBY LW too! Embarrassing bunch of lemmings.. Do they have no self awareness???

Mikey fought an incredibly stupid fight, I don't know if his Mexican machismo heart was over ruling his head or what!
Standing square on, going toe to toe, with barely any jab, a paltry punch out put & choosing to back a bigger man up was a terrible game plan! Suicide.. Where was his world class footwork??

He had zero agility or pop on his shots, looked fat as **** with poor timing.. & Spence knew he couldn't be hurt by him! Let's see Spence in with a mover..

 

Round 2 was close. Spence easily had the rest.

I also watched without sound because i ****ed up recording and set the audio to my mic instead of my speakers.

 

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that fight. That was the one where Tony got his career effectively ended by a man half his size. Where Tony took one of the worst beatings you'll ever see from a man who had no business even thinking about fighting at his weight. Where Tony didn't have anywhere near enough power to keep off a man 20lbs lighter than him.

If only Tony had the concrete hand wraps he used to become B-level in the first place and make all that money he never deserved. You know, the brick-gloves he used to inflict damage on fighters that would have destroyed him if he wasn't cheating. The disgraceful plaster wraps he got banned for? Remember?

Oh Tony, how we all miss you xx