I certainly haven't gone along with the common opponent(s) theme when comparing the two, your right it's not that significant. I just think right now Frampton wins, for me he looks technically sharper, better footwork and more powerful. I do rate Quigg highly btw and at 22 he is gonna get a lot better too.
I genuinely have never had an agenda against a particular fighter that posts on here apart from Limmond which was years ago. when it comes to Bellew and Gavin everything I have said is based on what I genuinely feel. Its only a problem because they post on here (hence why i made the joke about Arnie and Tonys comment being out of order). I like Arnie as a trainer, genunley think bellews problems recently were because he didn't listen to him. but quite often he comes on here and say "your all wrong" to various people but never gives us an explanation of why. I doubted Gavins dedication and fitness levels. Its not something anybody hasn't said before. If Paddy has a problem with that he must have a problem with allot of people.
Rob you should face facts, you were spouting a load of bollocks about Gavin. Expressing concern about his stamina and boxing fitness to fight the distance is one thing, he's never done it yet, but that shite you went on about posting links to black fighters ripped on the scales as some sort of example of what Gavin 'ought' to be like was moronic.
ah you no what this ****ing pisses me off because it shows you didn't actually read the 300 word post i made before I posted a photo of Tim Bradley and Amir Khan (because they are the top 2 at 140lbs) because I said "I KNOW BOXING IS NOT BODY BUILDING BUT......"
i no theres plenty of boxers that have looked like **** and been world class, but personally i like to see fighters looking like that. i think if you go through the top 10 p4p guys theres all pretty ripped up. thats what I was saying. If Frankie didn't post in the thread it wouldnt have been a big deal and i think he was more annoyed about the other guy...
Frampton is the best prospect at 122 in the pro game from Europe IMO. that said Quigg looks good too. If I was a trainer of a boxer I would say he wins against anyone not matter what - it's called management. You hardly expect the trainer of a boxer to admit on an internet forum that another boxer in the same division is capable of beating his trainee!
I don't really think it was even necessary to bring up what you just said for the second time regardless of who said it. Has no place on this forum and shouldn't be given more airtime. There are plenty of guys throughout history (even the recent history - see Calzaghe) that have not been 'ripped', white guys particularly because no matter how much you spin things, we aren't built like black people. Anybody that has eyes and isn't afraid of saying the painfully obvious is aware of that. We just aren't. So posting up guys like Bradley or whatever, even Khan, is a pointless exercise. Now, some white guys look better than others, and a lot of time it makes a difference how tight at the weight they are too. I don't think Frankie is that tight at 140lbs, certainly above that as he's been weighing in at. Nothing wrong with that either, it has its benefits. Basically, just wait and see. There are enough examples that writing him off as unfit for boxing is very premature at this stage. He might well be just as any prospect has that doubt hanging over them, but there is no evidence as yet Anyway, this is my last post on these matters because we're derailing a perfectly good thread.
Man there are some exciting fights at 122 between Booth/Munroe/Casey/Kiki/Quigg/Frampton and maybe 1 or 2 others.
your right mate have deleted it. might wanna do the same from the quote. i never said he was unfit. just feel he could do with putting on a bit of muscle. my point was that i think he is small in stature and that he could stuggle against a Urango beast type fighter in the future. it was an honest opinion which people took the wrong way because i posted a photo of a fighter thats no.1 in his division that happened to be black. i explained it but as seems the case allot on here recently people didnt bother reading that and just had a go at me. btw there plenty of ripped up white fighters and not so black ones.
Imo Carl is a better fighter at present in most depts,in saying that Scott is a very good fighter who should win titles