France versus Italy

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  1. Manassa

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    In terms of greatness. Who makes up the best team?

    (All Hall of Famers - both countries have four)

    Marcel Cerdan
    Marcel Thil
    Georges Carpentier
    Eugene Criqui

    Nino Benvenuti
    Duilio Loi
    Young Corbett III
    Rocky Kansas
     
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  2. tommy the hat

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    Italy of course.:happy
     
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  3. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rocky Kansas came to the USA at the age of 5.
    Young Corbett III came to the US as an infant.
    I'd consider them Americans, they grew up hear.
     
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  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Is that all there are? Battling Siki was French. Vito Antuofermo, Sumbu Kalambay, and Primo Carnera were Italian. Are none of them hall of famers?
     
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  5. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnny Dundee was born in Italy. Came to the US at about 5 years old. Became naturalized in 1919. So what should we consider him?
     
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  6. Manassa

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    Hey, I'm just going by what the IBHOF says. Well, Wikipedia's version of it: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Hall_of_Fame[/url]
     
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  7. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Italian.....and american.
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    Italy going off the fighters above.
     
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  9. Flea Man

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    Patrizio Ali was from Zaire.
     
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  10. TBooze

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    France probably have the edge until the 1920s then the Italians dominate, particularly the Italian born American fighters.

    France has had a bit of a renaissance in recent years, with migrants particularly from it's former Colonies in Africa, giving the sport in France a boost, whilst Italy has lost its top dog title in Continental Europe to Germany.
     
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  11. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis Mbarick Fall was from Senegal.
     
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  12. TBooze

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    But fought for the French in the Great War, and was considered a French citizen, as were all citizens of the French Empire.
     
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  13. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was just being pedantic in line with most of the other comments. What about Johnny Famechon?
     
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  14. TBooze

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    Got to be an Aussie surely? We claim Big Frank and Honeyghan after all...
     
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  15. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, I agree but he was born in France. As it happens I just looked up Siki on Wiki and his remains were repatriated to his home town in Senegal in 1993.

    The reason I was being pedantic in the first place is every time that there is a post about nationality we always get the same arguments.
     
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