Francis Ngannou ranking

Of course the bottom line is money. No way any of these guys should have been fighting for the belts that quickly. As for me, I want to see the top boxers fight eachother. Fury making Usyk wait while he stuffs his pockets is just wrong. But, at this point, it's water under the bridge. The fight I've been wanting to see is a few months away. So, let's hope it happens and it's a good one.

 

All correct except that McGregor was a boxer as well before MMA. Him, Gustafsson, Derek Lewis, Francis Ngannou, all were boxers before they realized MMA is a way easier path, and they all went that way.
Funny that the best and most notable guys in that sport, all were boxers in the beginning.
And dont forget, Gustafsson was robbed against Jon Jones in their first fight. Clearly beat Jones.

 

Ya I forgot that about Connor's Boxing record

Derek Lewis I think explicitly said that he switched to MMA because he thought it was easier

Don't know about Gustafsson vs Jones, has been many years since I last saw MMA. I just know about Connor & Lewis because I still go to sherdog boxing forum

Funnily enough I got into combat sports through MMA & switched to Boxing at some point, completely lost interest in MMA for multiple reasons, 1 major reason being the WWE vibes of promoting the brand & roidhead douchebag Dana White above any of the fighters. The fans actually take pride in shitting on the fighters with any semblance of self-respect on behalf of Dana. It is what they were/are doing with Francis Ngannou when he decided to be his own man & I can't understand that mindset at all

 

Chisora would take the fight in a heartbeat. Others are scared of losing and want safe fights.

 

It's false, at least for Ngannou : he never was a boxer.

Also, you're the only one thinking Gustafsson beat Jon Jones : http://mmadecisions.com/decision/4518/Jon-Jones-vs-Alexander-Gustafsson

The judges and the media disagree with you. You're trying to paint a false narrative after what happened to Fury.

 

Does anybody know why this was cancelled ? I heard rumours chisora was told not to risk his health at the end of his career but it was only rumours

 

Yep we don't live in a deserving universe. Whether its politics, music, or sports (among others) the masses often dictate decision making.

 

Me too and Fury might regain some stock after it happens.

 

I saw Nigel Mansel race live at Nazareth Speedway. He was ungodly talented.

 

You can also count me in . I would be more fascinated to see ngannou-zhang than fury-usyk .

And hell ... i have no idea to give any prediction in a ngannou-zhang scenario . Absolutely no idea.

 

I think Zhang takes him out in the first 6 rounds or Zhang gets stopped late

 

And yet the UFC has been producing stars much more quickly and frequently than boxing for like 15 years now in spite of apparently doing this....

Nothing wrong with promoting the brand, or in that brand having a recognisable public figurehead to talk and promote. Its one of the biggest benefits that MMA has over boxing and one of the biggest reasons its been able to steal so much ground. The average public have no ****ing clue what Top Rank and PBC are, zero brand power/loyalty, that isnt a good thing

 

haha you must be joking? Canelo, AJ, Fury, what do you think they are?

91,000 people didn't show up in Wembley for Fury vs Whyte if Fury had no star power

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Which MMA fighter has a fraction of the star power that Naoya Inoue has in Japan? UFC doesn't even have much of a presence in a country that used to be the biggest MMA market & where MMA is now a non entity compared to the peak years. Japan is the third largest economy on the planet btw, so your sport collapsing there in a few years isn't the same as it losing popularity in Samoa or Tonga or Palau

Sor Rungvisai is a bigger star in Thailand (a country of 70 million) than any Thai MMA fighter

You will be making a surprised pikachu face when you will learn that Tim Tszyu is a bigger star than Volkanovski or when Jai Opetaia sells out some big stadium down there some day soon

If you live in a bubble thinking that US & Canada are the world like many UFC fans then all that is lost on you. Klitschko's were never stars in US but they were massive stars in Germany selling out soccer stadiums & making huge money

 

I agree that the UFC is a more healthy organization when it comes to matchmaking.

To me the K1 had the best system. It was guaranteed that at least once a year you had the 8 best fighters fighting each other in Japan.

Check out Wikipedia under the tab Match-ups:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1_World_Grand_Prix

 

When did I say that they werent stars? I said the UFC produces stars more frequently than boxing has since the mid/late 00s, which is true. Their platform and the way they are set up in general allows them to elevate people much more quickly. Thats why I dont get the whole "the UFC promotes themselves over the fighters" thing. Their promotional machine is very effective on both fronts. The lack of centralised interest in boxing makes it a much harder and slower process.

Btw i'm from the UK myself so no I dont live in a USA bubble, but the reality is the US is the biggest and most important market. When Brock was fighting people in Vegas on full priced American PPV in the UFC it was just straight up bigger than Wlad fighting some dude in like Hamburg or something. When the sport is healthy in America thats a good sign.

As for Tszyu, he may well be a bigger star than Volk in Australia but a quick look at IG shows Volk has more than 5x as many followers. Thats because Volk is a much bigger GLOBAL star because the UFC is a GLOBAL platform with followers all over the world. Thats another thing about the lack of centralised interest, it tends to create regional stars rather than proper international ones. Inoue and Rungvisai again being examples. If youre an MMA fan anywhere in the world youre probably watching the UFC.

Lastly, do you really think the UFC couldnt do a big Wembley attendance too if they tried? we buy tickets for ****ing everything here. ****ing NFL games sell out and ive never known an NFL fan in my life. A card with Conor, Paddy, Aspinall, Leon or whatever would absolutely sell out.