Francis Ngannou vs Derek Chisora, December 2023

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  1. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chisora knows how to make money by doing hard honest fighting and that is a negative?
     
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  2. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    At this point yes it s a negative.
    He’s clearly not on the level and is diminishing his health by doing it.
     
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  3. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    Ngannou will stop Chisora.

    Chisora is completely shot as a fighter, he barely won against equally shot Gerald Washingthon last time and was rocked a few times.
     
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  4. mrbigshot

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    Chisora is a "try out" to find out where ngannou really stands in the boxing world .

    They do not know if his stunning performance against fury was a one hit wonder or if he really is that powerful .
     
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  5. rusev

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    Brutal KO for Nganu , Chisora is playing with his health , he is rich but often you can't buy health with money.
     
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  6. TMLT87

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    Thats a pretty dumb fight tbh. Del Boy is not a big name outside of the UK and you'll get no real respect for beating him. But then on the other hand he is tough enough and game enough that he could potentially give Ngannou problems and damage the momentum of the big new thing in the division.
     
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  7. AdamT

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    I think Ngannou will beat the hell out of him
     
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  8. venbox

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    Yet another step into including Chisora in the list of brain-damaged fighters.
     
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  9. miniq

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    If this was announced 2 weeks ago it would be "Chisora is going to KO him flat"

    Now it's Chisora is shot.

    If Chisora can hurt Francis with that big overhand right then we have a fight.
     
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  10. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chisora on points
     
    heerko koois, Nov 5, 2023
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  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Rickety career gate keeper Chisora is shot to bits same as his dance partner Fury. I have Ngannou by KO.
     
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  12. Guerra

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    Cause he is the gatekeeper. If you need to prove yourself to be worthy of a shot, need te rebound from a big loss or want an easy money win, chisora is the guy to go to.
    After that you can play the waiting game and hope to be picked for a big money fight.

    If he beats ngannou he will probably fight Fury again.
     
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  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua and Wilder are far more lucrative and more prestigious opponents than Zhang, so at least there's big reward for the risk there. They may also be more winnable and less punishing fights: Joshua would try to do a Ruiz 2 and wouldn't set his feet once, whereas Wilder could get KO'd early given his greater go for broke mentality, age, inactivity and the damage he sustained in the last two Fury fights.

    Chisora seems like a very low risk, medium reward fight. He'd get Ngannou his first win while adding little wear and creating little footage to study. Chisora's quite highly ranked, he's fought everyone so he's a recognisable name, he's looked to be on the decline since Parker 2, which was 4 beatings/wars and 2 years ago now and he's never been stopped in the first third of a fight (and only stopped before the 10th once in 47 fights). So if Ngannou stopped him inside 4, it would be a somewhat impressive win regardless of how washed up Chisora is.
     
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  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "If Chisora can hurt Francis with that big overhand right then we have a fight."

    He can't. I don't remember him hurting 41 Washington last time out and Chisora sustained some damage in that fight.

    "If this was announced 2 weeks ago it would be "Chisora is going to KO him flat"

    I personally didn't believe that at all. I was saying that Ngannou was more dangerous than most contenders prior to the Fury fight (though he turned out to be a lot better than I thought even still).
     
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  15. uppakut

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    If this fight goes ahead Ngannou will knock chisora out clean, I don't think Ngannou will caught by any over hand rights because he demonstrated against pork belly that he is good at measuring distance and counterpunching.
    Chisora needs to retire, he's made enough money and won't win any titles. He's become a journey man now and needs to enjoy his money and spend time with his family whilst he still can
     
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