Frank Bruno best night ?

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  1. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    Which was it ....and why ?
     
  2. pablod

    pablod Active Member Full Member

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    Got to be the night he finally achieved his dream winning the world title at the 4th attempt.
    I like how he wouldn't give up, he kept trying and trying until he did it.
    Maybe not the best champion theres ever been but a real inspiration to everyone to never give up.
     
  3. woombox

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    I thought he was very good against Tyson, the first time around.
     
  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think he boxed well against Tillis and Bugner. The fight with Williams was a good controlled performance against a faded but still live opponent. The Coetzee win was impressive. Sharp. Even if a blow out.

    His pace limited him against Lewis. Started too fast against Witherspoon too. Frank really gave Tyson something to think about the first time because Frank was live and wanted to win, he didn't turn up in survival mode like most Tyson challengers. where as the second time Bruno was just too big to do himself justice even had he held himself together.
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I completely disagree regarding the Tyson fight, to me he looked like a rabbit in the headlights. The hanging on for dear life and rabbit punching were a sign of the nerves, I can't recall Bruno throwing his big right at all with any conviction. He had Tyson hurt with a left hook, not even his best shot and failed to back it up.
     
  6. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Bugner was one of his best aswell but i may get pulled up on this one aswell but up to the moment he got sparked in the last round i though the dominated every minute against Bonecrusher Smith - i thought his performance for 9 rounds was about as good as he ever looked against that level of opponent - MCall was horrible awful really not sure even won that? LEWIS he looked good too but you kinda knew it was only a matter of time before Lewis lashed out in that one? But yeah ibut i think Bonecrusher was a real heartbreaker because he dominated a fair fighter and puncher who i had my doubts about him coping with pretty well he shoukdve won that fight on the cards by every round
     
  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Tyson had too much speed and Frank could not time his big right at all. Getting off with his lead hand was about all Bruno had the room and time to use between bull rushes, but he gave it a go. Bruno did rabit punch and Tyson butted and elbowed.

    That first fight Frank was really in it. even if he was losing rounds.

    The second fight Bruno was reduced to grabbing a whole lot more because being that bit slower than the first time Tyson would close the gap before Frank had time to set himself.
     
  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tbh I can't recall Bruno trying to land his right in the first fight. He looked very nervous and shaky to me hence the grabbing on for dear life, Tyson was butting to try and escape from the clinching and rabbit punches. Bruno catches Tyson with a cracking elbow to the face if you watch the replay just prior to the early knockdown.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yes Bruno boxed well and did not entirely "gas out" in the Bonecrusher fight but Smith was raw then and I don't think Frank was quite full force. Frank did a good job keeping Smith right on the end of a punch but he was not using step in power in that fight. A lot of "don't hit me" jabs as much to occupy his opponent to keep him off than to dominate him in the true sence. Smith took his chance when Bruno took his eye off the ball and Frank's inexperience let him down right when he needed some.

    Nobody handled Smith so easily but I think that fight made Smith because he looked a better fighter against Holmes in his next fight. I don't think Frank had Smith hurt at any time.
     
  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I don't think Bruno could even pull the trigger on his right hand. Tyson was lightning fast at closing the gap. Brunos right needed a lot more space. He would have felt that he was not fast enough to get off with his right hand moments into the fight.

    TYsons speed took Brunos right hand out of the equation. Frank could not set himself in time. I don't think it was fear it was not having the room or speed to use it.

    By the time Brunos right travelled across his chest Mike would have nailed him three times. And Frank would gave sensed this. The angle that Tyson attacked from Brunos right was just too far away. When ever Bruno nailed anyone with a right it was usually against an upright guy standing off of him. Tyson moved too fast.
     
  11. Wass1985

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    Well the way to stop that is negotiate a good strong jab to keep Tyson at length, all Bruno did was paw with the jab. I don't even think he knew he had Tyson hurt at the end of the first round either. He fought to negative for me in that fight but each to their own I suppose.
     
  12. choklab

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    It's all about space and timing.having the room and time to pull the trigger. There was a different level of anticipation and reaction between both fighters. Tyson had the edge and Bruno was severely restricted by that edge.

    Douglas had a faster jab he could land, reposition and set off the next jab from safety. Bruno either knocked you back or got hit with the reply as far as Tyson was concerned.

    Frank did know he hurt mike. Frank could not react fast enough to capitalize on it as instinctively as was required. He rushed in and blew his one chance. But he did try.
     
  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watch the fight, Bruno had plenty of time to get off with the right but never did. If you're going to paw with the jab then at least throw a quick right hand down the pipe and surprise him. Anyway what are we debating?? I wouldn't say this was Bruno's best performance would you?
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Nah, it's not his best. You need two hands to do your best work. Bruno was in shape, as good as he was going to be but against an exceptional champion. It was as good as he was going to do against an all time great champion but he had easier times against lesser fighters and therefore better performances.
     
  15. McGrain

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