What sort of style match up did you see? Because I see a far faster shorter fighter using his perfected D'Amato/Rooney peek-a-boo style, quickness, chin, and head movement to get inside the range of a taller slower fighter and using his freakish power and blinding combinations on a guy with a suspect chin. Lewis' worst nightmare. Prime Mike is all wrong for Lewis. Shell Mike which you are more familiar with has zero foot speed, almost zero head movement, and no real heart for it anymore which allows Lewis to fire from range all night long. We all know how that goes. Nobody beats Lewis that way. It's just like with RJJ. Some people having not seen his best look at him today and just can't comprehend that he was once a completely different fighter.
seeing as how Rahman caught Lewis, Tyson would've caught Lewis more than enough time to keep him on the canvas in both fights in his prime.
Lewis has an uppercut for Tyson when goes down and tries to come back over the top. Also Lewis has a big right hand when Tyson comes up looking after he slips a punch. Lewis ties people up on the inside too. Ive seen most of Tyson's fights back from when he struggled with Quick Tillis its just i dont buy into all the hype etc. Holyfield has been in more hard fights than Tyson so why is it people make excuses for Mike about being past his prime? what does that make Holy after his wars with bowe x3,[url]Mercer[/url],[url]Stewart[/url],[url]Cooper[/url],[url]Foreman[/url],[url]Dokes[/url],[url]Qawi[/url]. Holy had a lot less left than Tyson and he still beat him. Tyson's toughest fight was prolly against Ruddock and that was not exactly Holyfield vs Dokes was it?
Prime Lewis is a nightmare for Tyson! He does everything to prime Tyson that Douglas did to an ill prepared Tyson.
Prime Tyson is all wrong for Prime Lewis. Cus/Rooney trained tyson would get inside and be ripping away at all kinds of angles at safety first, box from the outside Steward trained Lewis. Lewis would be forced into a war and he's slower than prime tyson and tyson doesn't cut.
I dont know how anyone can say Prime Tyson cant beat Prime Lewis when Prime Lewis was ko'd twice from one punch by two fighters who might never be remembered in 10 years. I bet my house that Prime Tsyon catches Prime Lewis with that left hook-upper cut everytime he got in. And make no mistake, prime Tyson would had gotten in a lot.
Not because he fought both? or that he didnt win a round off Tyson yet was leading Lewis going into the 2nd half of the fight?
I personally hate on Holyfield mostly because he is a Hypocrite. He is the first to ***** about something dirty in the ring and praise the lord while making his career actually being the most dirty heavyweight in recent history and a complete turd out of the ring. The media and HBO gobbled his BS for years and it made me ill. He was a warrior though and for the record had a much better style to combat Tyson's prime than Lewis. As well he should because he spent his entire early career training to fight Tyson. But I would not buy into this whole Tyson had more left in the 90s bull****. Holyfield's fundemental style ages far better than Mikes without counting the years of rust Mike accumulated being away from the sport and training. Post prison, Tyson was a shadow of himself. He still had his power, his name, and some of his pride left but lost his stamina, foot speed, accuracy, defense, and motivation. By the time he fought Lewis he didn't even have his pride or confidence left.
Tyson was something special...unfortunately he had some real problems after Cus died...even before then Mike was mentally a bit off. Cus was able to do the things to keep Mike progressing in his craft and given the foudation he needed to keep progressing both personally and proffesionally....Don King screwed boxing out of a shoe in ATG!!! Maybe even the best HW of all time?
I dont agree i think Lewis style was just as potent against Tyson. To beat Tyson you gotta claim the centre of the ring and put him on the backfoot and not back up from him, because if you do back up from him he gets the leverage for his power punchers. Lewis nearly always comanded centre of the ring and controlled it with his jab and right cross/uppercut.
First, you cannot compare Morrison or Tua to a prime Tyson. It is irrelevant, because Tyson's speed, not to mention power, more than anything is what troubled fighters. His speed at his prime would have made the difference against Lewis; he would find a way to get within punching range and test Lewis' chin. I don't think Lewis' chin would hold up to a few bombs from Tyson, resulting in a Tyson KO.
I concur with the first part of your analysis, which of course is really just history. It is not clear to me what would have happened prime for prime, if such a match could have happened. Both Lewis and Tyson have their respective flaws in character. The worst part of them became obvious to everybody in the match that we saw. Tyson's fear of bigger men overrode his ability to fight, and Lewis's fear of getting hit caused him to delay the final knockout. It is hard to say what might have happened ten years previously. I find it amazing that Lewis performed so poorly considering he had so little to fear from Tyson. Tyson in his prime would have been so much more dangerous.
I was there last night as well. Absolutely brilliant night! Bruno is entitled to his opinion - it's not one I agree with however.