Frank Mir and then Brock Lesnar...

I think a healthy Nog would beat Mir. As for Lesnar...

I am not sure how Nog would fair.

 

He does, I am going with Nogueira for the upset. Nog RNC1 Lesnar.

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NOG put on a fanstastic performance last night but I don't think he can beat Mir or Lesnar. But hey, it's a fight and anything can happen. NOG has all my respect. He showed up to Portland to take care of business and that's what he did. I loved it.

 

I like it, a guy like Nog although he got destroyed by Mir actually is the kind who has a good case for a rematch.

 

If Nogueira beats Lesnar decisively and wins the heavyweight title, where would you rank him on your all time heavyweight list?

 

i think nog could sneak a submission on lesnar if he didnt get sat on 1st lol

 

The same place I do now, number 2.

 

Hes number 2 now and IMO will always be 2 behind Fedor unless they somehow fought agian and Nog won and then you add in the UFC and Pride Championships the only man to do that and possibly adding Brock and Mir to that resume IMO would make a better resume then Fedors.

 

No I don't. Frank has the formula for Nog. Frank threw Nog all over the octagon the couple of times he chose to put him on his back. Nog isn't physically strong enough to rough Mir up like Lesnar did and can't outbox Mir like he did Randy so Frank is just a bad matchup for Nog IMO. And even if they went to the ground Nog isn't just gonna sub him so easily.

Mir has a black belt himself and is extremely educated on the ground. It may be a better fight than the first but Mir still takes it. Nog will outclass someone with a weak ground game. Guys with great ground games like Barnett gave Nog all he could handle, and Mir would do the same.

 

Healthy Nog should be able to handle Mir and Brock.

 

Nog is by far the best BJJ / ground fighter in the HW division, even to this day i have no idea how Mir beat him, the only reason i can think of is when mir went Southpaw it confused him, then again Nog has better stand up than Mir. Nog is better than Mir in every department.

Nog is an animal I don't know how you can question his strength.

 

You don't have any idea how Mir beat him? He knocked him out.

The only reason you can think of is when Mir went southpaw it confused him? Mir is always southpaw.

Nog does NOT have better standup than Mir.

Nog has better Jiu Jitsu than Mir but that does not mean he's better than him in every department.

I'm not questioning Nog's strength. I said he's not stronger than Mir. Nog may be the best ground fighter in the HW division but Mir is the 2nd best fight ground fighter in the HW division. He would not outclass Mir on the ground.