Frank Shamrocks opinion on boxing

Liddell from a purist standpoint is awful. BUT it works in MMA and he doesn't try to change that dimension. This is why fighters of years gone by have been so successful. Everyone these days is trying to be a jack of all trades and a master of none. Iv been saying this for years that fighters must know what there bread and butter is. I mean you have guys like Franklin who are labeled as "freestyle" fighters. WTF is a free style fighter?

 

Its not that they tried to make Haye fight 3 in a row, he would have had to forfeit the HW belt had he won. Greasy politics like that doesn't happen in respectable MMA Promos. Notice how I said respectable? You can leave the Kimbo fiasco right out of this one

 

Its NOT TRUE. If you honestly think a guy like Fedor can hit as hard as Wlad or Vitali or Haye, or Peter you are absolutely crazy.

LOL, Bas Rutten, give me a break.

Where did you find that info? Fight Science lol, they also said Fedor chokes as hard as a bear, you believe that as well.

Mir, Shamrock, Jay Hieron, Rampage all believe boxers hit harder than MMA'ers and yet you dont? Frank Mir just didnt say they hit a bit harder, he said they hit alot harder, they said they are much faster, much more accurate and throw about as perfect a punch as you can possibly throw.

Arlovski has good hands but certainly doesnt have much power in relation to the best HW's in the world.

I just cant believe there are people out there that claim an MMA fighter hits about as hard as a boxer. Thats just completely ridiculous.

 

HAHA yeah, he probably wishes he was a Muay Thai fighter against Silva.

I remember Serra said you have to have to be good at something, because if you arent good at something in MMA, you're not going to get very far. If you're decent at everything, you might be able to be a solid fighter but you're going to eventually run into someone whos good at something and bad at everything else but you cant dictate your style of fight therefore you end up fighting his fight.

 

Yeah I dont like that either. But lets be honest, greasy politics happens in every promotion whether it be boxing or MMA.

I mean, Lesnar was 1-1 in the UFC and got to fight for a title in the "biggest fight in MMA history."

 

MMA is about how well you perform YOUR style against someone elses. You can be the best BJJ guy in the world. But if your in an MMA bout with the best Muay Thai guy in the world theres a possibility you may get KO'ed. That doesnt mean BJJ is **** it simply means the other guy is a better striker. Hence why fighters then try to be so well rounded. Its false economy.

 

The UFC is interested in one thing and thats making money. There economic model is VERY sound because they give very little back to there fighters. They also jump on situations such as the Lesnar one when he was the most least deserving person for a title shot. Quite farcical and most of all hypocritical.

 

He can't have been the LEAST deserving if he won. I'm certainly not saying there weren't a lot of other fighters that should have been in front of him, but if he beat the UFC HW champ than it is a good thing he got the chance to fight the champ.

 

If you divide mma bouts into three phases: Striking, Clinch/wrestling, Groundfighting than I think it becomes kind of clear that you only need to be BETTER than your opponent at any 2 of the 3 to win.

If you are only better at striking, your opponent can take you down and win.

If you are only better at clinch/wrestling, than you can dictate where the fight goes, but you lose at either place.

If you can only groundfight, you can get KOed without being able to take down your opponent.

Striker/wrestlers are like lidell. Wrestler/subs are like Hughes and Striker/subs are A. Silva (obviously, these examples represent the templates at their best). It's important to be well rounded in the sense that you need to be better than your opponent in at least 2 of those areas.

Obviously though, it's MMA so any fight can end at any time.

 

We can go all the way back to the days of Tex Rickard and see that the fight business has always been one part show business as well.

It's still a business and if a guy can put butts in the seats - expect to see him get chances that more deserving fighters may not receive. Doesn't mean it's right - but it happens. Always has and always will.

 

Ive been wondering for about 8 years now :huh

 

"i don't watch mma i only watch boxing" = all credibility lost

 

Frank is 1 of my all time fav`s, 1 of the most well rounded fighters ever, even to this day.
Its good to know he is a big boxing fan, I like him as a character too.

 

Why :huh

MMA is his job, the guy is being honest, what do you want him to do ? lie ?

I like both boxing & MMA but have no problem with people that dont like either or prefer one over the other.

Just because Frank is an MMA fighter doesnt auto mean he HAS to prefer MMA over boxing.

I dont see how he loses any credability whatsoever.