Frank Shamrocks opinion on boxing

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by achillesthegreat, Apr 12, 2009.


  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Its quite simple...

    The best strikers must become great at either wrestling - to prevent the takedown - or BJJ - to not be a fish out of water when taken down - Chuck Liddell is a good example of the striker/wrestler & Wanderlei Silva is a good example of the striker/BJJ fighter.

    The really top wrestlers actually can get away with no stand up skills as long as they are not in with better wrestlers but they must know how to GNP to finish & have good submission defence when taking down a BJJ guy - a good example is Randy Couture.

    BJJ guys dont necessarily need to develop striking IMO because when alls said & done, they will still get ****ed up by the best strikers on the feet, what a BJJ guy must do for success in MMA is become a great wrestler, that way he can get the strikers to the ground & finish them using THEIR game, pure wrestlers are mostly made for pure BJJ guys because the wrestlers are taking the BJJ guys to exactly were they want to be - Rickson Gracie is an example of the classic BJJ/wrestler.

    In a nutshell.... learn enough of other arts that are gonna benefit YOUR art, always try to implement YOUR STYLE on others, DONT box the boxer if your a grappler... all this well rounded **** will get you beat unless you are a well rounded guy that is a specialist in at least 1 of the arts like Frank Shamrock was with submissions.


    Cheers :thumbsup
     
  2. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Little children are now training in MMA and can become what Anderson Silva is and more.

    The evolution of MMA is far from over.

    We will see fighter's in the future who are even better than Silva, Fedor and GSP.

    I think that Silva is the most complete fighter in MMA history, so just imagine what the youngsters who look up to him are going to turn out like.

    One day there will be many beautiful MMA fighter's who can do it all.

    True Mixed Martial Artists with tremendous skills no matter where the fight takes place, and believe me, they will be ****ing incredible to watch. :good

    In the future you will need to be a trrue mixed martial artist with grade A skills in all departments.
     
  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    ^ You forgot MAchida, only MMAfighter who practices defense (Anderson is up there too)

    If the spoort is going to evolve into a "sweet" science like Boxing has. One has to learn to defend.

    What boggles the mind is that this is actually one of the two most important rules of engagement in Martial Arts. Dont get ****in hit!

    But I do understand that it is a relatively young sport and shouldnt be held to the highest standards. But with guys like Lyoto and Silva, you can see a step in the right direction in terms of evolving.

    In the future, you'll have fighters like a Whittaker, Benitez, Duran in the octagon. Fighters who can dish it out and elude you at the same time.
     
  4. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately, martial arts and MMA are not synonomous.

    I dont even see it evolving the way people think it is. There are literally only a handful of guys im impressed with in MMA.

    Machida, ASilva, Evans, GSP, Penn, Maia, Fedor, AA and literally thats it.

    Its not like in 10 years were going to have 10 GSP's in each weight class. GSP is the exception not the norm and that will never change.

    And guys like Silva and Machida and pretty all the fighters I mentioned are guys who have experience and succeeded at a specific discipline. Thats why they are so successful because they are so good at one aspect of MMA.

    Right now, at every MMA gym ive attended these aspiring MMA'ers are no good at anything and have no fighting background. And these guys are MMA's "future."

    Im not liking it, if thats the case.
     
  5. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hes been training MMA for more more than a decade.

    I'd say hes pretty credible.
     
  6. Burundanga

    Burundanga Renaissance Man Full Member

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    bull**** dude.... if he claims that he does not watch mma then he is lying....if he is lying, his credibility is lost. he is a dinosaur (granted an talented one) looking to keep his flame alive

    do you believe he doesn't watch mma?
     
  7. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He said he watches MMA on HDNet. Hes claimed he watches very little UFC.

    Im not so sure how that diminishes his credibility. You'd be surprised at how many MMA'ers or boxers or MT fighters are not fans of their own sport. Some of my training partners I cant even have an intelligent conversation about boxing or MMA. They rarely follow it and yet they compete at a fairly high level as an amatuer.
     
  8. brixtonbeat

    brixtonbeat Active Member Full Member

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    Well, I know Jermaine Taylor has widely been quoted as saying that he doesn't follow boxing, so it is reasonable to think that he might have an MMA equivalent.
     
  9. Jermaine786

    Jermaine786 master boxer Full Member

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    Great guy, but maybe if he focused more on mma he'd be better.
    Seems like he's a big boxing fan.. he even said it's his first blood... interesting. very interesting.
    i don't think mma has progressed very little.
    ufc seats for example, are more expensive then major boxing matches in vegas.. that says a lot.
    I think mma is becoming bigger and bigger and it's growing at a faster pace.
    nobody was ever wearing affliction t-shirts 2 years ago...
    i guess he's talking about the sport itself.. but boxing hasn't progressed very much in that regard either.
    i would expect mma to enter the olympics officially in the near future..
    we'll see..
     
  10. thebrodstar

    thebrodstar Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah got got a title shot in a lacking weight class. Who deserved it?
     
  11. thebrodstar

    thebrodstar Active Member Full Member

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    He probably watches MMA more than he let on. He is a fighter in a promotion where he commentates quite often. His brother fights, his nephew has started fighting, several of his friends are fighters.

    I think he may have just said he doesn't watch MMA to make a point.