Frank Warren never makes dangerous fights for his fighters?

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  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Enzo vs Haye
    Arther vs Guzman
    Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Three of his champions have all taken on their biggest available challenge within a 6 month period.

    Some people owe Frank "the best in the business" Warren an apology.
     
  2. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Was It Frank who got ESB shut down when they blasphemed him one time?
     
  3. TAM83

    TAM83 Active Member Full Member

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    I'll give him Enzo vs Haye, but Calzaghe was 35/36 when he got his Kessler fight and Arthur is approaching 30 before he get's his career defining fight.
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Amazing is in his prime right now.
     
  5. Mikey

    Mikey I'm An Uzi Lover Full Member

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    Junior Witter vs Zab Judah although Waren was trying to ruin him, does this count?
     
  6. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd protected Calzaghe for a long time before the Kessler fight. As for Enzo-Haye I think he reckons Haye is there for the taking due to weight issues.
     
  7. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I remember a day when all the top fighters fought each other regularly. These days there are too much politics and its leeches like Warren squabbling over purses that cause the fans to lose out.
     
  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    You could make a case for Warren giving JC the Lacy fight as being 'dangerous'. The reason that AAA is nearly 30 before his 'career defining fight' is that Gomez KO'd him and set him back at least 2 years.
     
  9. robpalmer135

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    Enzo vs Haye - he has waited until Haye is at 70% because of weight to make the fight.

    Athur vs Guzman - The only way Arthur could get a World title fight. Even if Arthur looses he can still make decent money from him.

    Calzaghe vs Hopkins - he had no choice, Joe has 2 fights left most might as well put him in the biggest money fights.
     
  10. dwilson

    dwilson Guest

    Admittedly I am no fan of Warren but he has put together some good shows and some very good match ups recently.

    The big problem is that he is no different from every other promoter out there. They all want to protect a fighter who can give them money so it is hard for us to get a constant supply of prime vs prime top level fights.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Frank refused to make the Haye fight unless he had options on David's future career, until Haye won the WBC and WBA straps against Mormeck, which would have made him look silly asking for options.

    Calzaghe has been ridiculously over protected, Joe is a great fighter, and would have beaten almost all of the names he is reportedly have ducked (or Frank ducked them for him!)

    I think why people get sick of Warren is because of his control over his fighters, he runs a close second to Saddam Hussein in terms of dictatorship - he rarely does what his fighter wants, but the fighters shouldn't allow him to get away with it.

    In terms of Alex Arthur, if you claim a paper Interim championship, you can't duck out of the fight with the real champ, not that it matters, because Alex will be blasted out in no time anyway.
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Who are the people that 'Calzaghe ducked or Frank ducked for him'?
     
  13. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the only reason he started making big fights is because he was loosing the itv money and he needed to show he could still put together attractive cards both to the viewing public and the tv bosses.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Glen Johnson for starters.

    I think why people get annoyed is because there were 18 (i think) defences of the WBO before a single unification fight, which is ****ing shite really.

    Warren exercises a lot of power over his fighters, the only reason Tszyu got made is because Hatton threatened to leave him, whilst Frank (to my knowledge) was skirting round Kessler to find someone else, but the fight was made at Joe's insistence.

    Thats why my friend!
     
  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Rematch anyone?