Frank Warren was asked the difference between now and when he first started....

Honestly there is a lot of downright disrespect for the fitness and technical quality of past fighters. As if they were some type of cavemen figures that didn't have a clue. They did have a clue, and they gained it through years and years of fighting experience.

Fighters today technically are generally shite in comparison to the 50's. Not the 19th century and early 20th, thats an entirely different era for me. We have kids today standing there, square on, in the middle of the ring with their hands up as if thats great technique. None of them know a thing about slipping or parrying a punch, controlling range and distance, they rely on that high guard. They might talk a good game about doing these things but they don't do it in the ring. They have half the defensive and offensive arsenal of past fighters as a result.

 

I personally love the old time fighters and study plenty of them but it's quite easy to look at ray Robinson and look at mayweather and you can see the sport has come on in physical terms and technical too. I work with a premier league football club and the facilities are amazing and the machines they have just are not available to the normal athlete. My only point in all this is the sport has come on, every sport on planet earth has come on the last 50 years and make no mistake boxing is no different, IMHO guys:good:good

 

I think your right about the skill level in general tbh. I think the training methods of today are not that different. Weights are weights, Runs sprints ect are nothing new. The difference for me is in the science diet ect which no doubt helps fighters today.

I would say the old school trainers were masters in there own right who taught them selfs with experience. How do we define experts,scholars ect experience ,courses undertaken, time served ,science based evidence ?

The fighters had better skill levels due to being more active simple as imo . The same as the trainers more fights to get ready for the more you learn .

 

I think there's a lot of disrespect both ways; both the 'bigger/newer is better' people and the 'old guys were superior' brigade.

A great fighter is a great fighter.

 

And? Pacquiao has only done 12 rounds what, 5/6 times? And he's not fighting as regularly inbetween that. The point is that Robinson had a lot of scheduled 15 rounders and fought on a far more regular basis than any world-level fighter around today.