Frankie Gavin Out

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by LiamE, Aug 6, 2008.


  1. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fact that he fought and won at world amatuers only 9 months ago means he can weight. Spoken like a typical arm chair athelete, I take you have never laced a pair of gloves or you'd know its very common for amatuer fighters to fight ONE weight class above their fighting weight. This is done to acclimate a fighter to stronger opponents.
    You dont need 4kg of muscle to move up ONE weight class, fighters do it all the time ahead of big competition.

    When all you're doing is getting ready for the biggest stage in you're career , and training full time for months with the best nutritionist then the only way a fighter is not making weight is if he was not discipled enough.
     
  2. slapsSOgood

    slapsSOgood Active Member Full Member

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    he's just said 7 weeks ago he was at light welter. can't you read? 9 months, shnine months.
     
  3. seldon71

    seldon71 New Member Full Member

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    Frankie Gavin was already a lightweight at age of 19 (EU Games in Cagliari, Italy). Most athletes including boxers fill up between age of 19 and 22. Thus keeping the weight will be more and more difficult as time goes and at some point will be simply too much.

    Add to the fact, that large part of dietary products are regarded as doping in WADA rules (as they do hide the steroid use).

    So, we are not speaking about discipine needed for keeping the weight down for 9 months, but rather 3+ years.

    Might be tough even for fully-grown man yet alone someone who is under-20 to start with. Possible, but ALSO requires a true effort to avoid any muscle-growth at all costs.

    IMO, AIBA rules are the key culprit, not Gavin nor ABA

    p.s. and this is an opinion of Finnish boxing person without anything personal on stake.
     
  4. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm sure there is a whole lot more to this affair than meets the eye. No doubt it will all come out after the Olympics.
    I find it strange that the coach said he was 3pounds over with two days to go:huh He could have lost that with 30mins in the sauna,so it doesn't make sense
     
  5. seldon71

    seldon71 New Member Full Member

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    This is only true as long as you retain a normal amount of liquids in your body. However, there is certain threshold after which sweating won't happen anymore as you experience an internal "system shutdown". Not that I have heard too many boxers suffer from it, but it ain't that rare amongst wrestlers who by rule diet much larger percentages of you walk-around weight to competitions.

    I remember Finnish European Champion wrestler Mikael Lindgren failing to make a weight in Atlanta Olympics. By official reports, his body refused to sweat anymore after reaching 61 or 62 kg (he was supposed to make 57 kg). At those times, Lindgren weighed around 70-72 kg during normal training.
     
  6. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    Very disappointing situation. A concern I have is that this may have wider consequences for future funding.

    On another note - seems some of our other Olympic boxing hopes have been dealt tough draws.
     
  7. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    yeh would like to hear gavin winging about what they are gonna pay him now.
     
  8. slapsSOgood

    slapsSOgood Active Member Full Member

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    It said on the radio that he had £70,000 of lottery money alone spent on him, so there should be an inquiry.

    It does seem strange that this was allowed to happen. I would think they would've been weighing themselves every day the past few months, and if he had to drop some muscle mass by only doing cardio so be it. Something isn;t quite right.
     
  9. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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  10. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    what a ****in idiot
     
  11. skanksta

    skanksta New Member Full Member

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    Gary Russel isn't the idiot -it's his f*kwit of a father !
    Did anyone else read the comedy gem in that story ?
    "Gary Russell, who has FIVE other brothers all called Gary Russell."

    !!! WTF !!! :roll:
     
  12. Anthony Farnell

    Anthony Farnell Not the REAL Farnell! Full Member

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    :lol: