Frankie Liles and Collins turned down big money fights with Roy Jones?

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  1. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again...:deal
     
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  2. Right Hook

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    Bollocks, fact is Collins wanted to fight Jones for years and years, and would've done it for **** all money Jones didn't want to fight him.
     
    Right Hook, Oct 31, 2010
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  3. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benn fought in the US a few times, Barkley and Dewitt were big names.
     
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  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Herein lies the problem.

    DM was the champ.
     
    Axe, Oct 31, 2010
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  5. Sweet Jones

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    Just wait for it....


    Repeating...

    No one gave a dayum about DM other than Roy haters.
     
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  6. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    well if DM was the champ, then he should have travelled to America. As people said in this thread "Great fighters take risks"
     
    Body Head, Oct 31, 2010
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  7. Sweet Jones

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    Jan Zeveck and V. Senchenko are current Welterweight champs too. Is there any buzz for a fight between them and Mayweather or Pac?
     
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  8. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    collins was made at least one offer so your comment is false. it was the best decision collins ever made in his career. he would have been bludgeoned.
     
    kmac, Oct 31, 2010
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  9. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's rather illogical.
     
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  10. Sweet Jones

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    Why ignore his 2nd sentence?
     
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  11. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    How do you know it was them asking for a Kings ransom and not Jones?
    King wanted options, for around 3 fights, not for Jones's entire career.
    When Jones fought Ruiz he gave King options
    When Jones fought Tito, he gave King options
    According to who? How could Collins ask for 6m? His biggest payday was 1m(Eubank II). Jones Paz- showed that Jones himself wasnt a draw, it only did around 160-175ppv. So how could Collins be asking for that kind of money? It was Jones who was demanding 5M for the fight, not Collins.
    Great fighters take risks. If Darius wasn't leaving Germany, Jones should of gone over there for the sake of his legacy. Like Gonzalez did. It is no about who is right or wrong, Jones was also asking for a crazy amount of money as well.
    That was never the problem. HBO wanted those fights, Jones promised them that he would fight the best in his division, but once he got the contract he did the exact opposite.
     
    general zod, Nov 2, 2010
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  12. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    https://www.google.com/accounts/Ser...1f9ec9280?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=benn+vs+jones&hl=en
    It was Jones who killed that fight
    http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/6327/boxing-mantle-roy-jones-legacy/
    http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/hbo-boxing-the-challenge
     
    general zod, Nov 2, 2010
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  13. kinglouie3

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    I am a huge RJJ fan, but he missed too many guys for it to be coincidence. He wanted nothing to do with McClellan or Nunn. And why didn't Benn, Eubank or Jackson ever get discussed?

    He even avoided a rematch with both Hopkins and Toney for over a decade.

    RJJ could have fought Tyson or Holy or Byrd at heavyweight, but chose Ruiz.

    Then he balked at fighting Jirov at 190, then Toney beat him to it.

    RJJ = great fighter, but only fought who he wanted to fight.

    Tarver had to belittle him into 3 fights, and the only reason he fought Calzaghe was for $.
     
    kinglouie3, Nov 2, 2010
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  14. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Darius was the linear champ, who had all of his belts stripped off him, by abc sanctioning bodies which didnt like him having the WBO belt.
    He would of been the best win on Jones's resume after Toney, if Jones beat him
     
    general zod, Nov 2, 2010
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  15. Sweet Jones

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    Over Tarver I, Hopkins, or the HW championship?

    :bart
     
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