Frans Botha vs Vitali Klitshko

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    It may surprise you to hear that no, I don't think Williams' chin is GRADE A china - shaky, without a doubt, but as bad as somebody like Fraudley, who takes one shot from a light puncher and is OUT?? No way.

    Guys like Fraudley hit the deck and don't get up. That Williams took shots AND got up shows his chin isn't complete china. Not great, certainly, but not glass.
     
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  2. ThePlugInBabies

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    williams chin wasn't the greatest, but he made up for it with balls of steel. that boy is a ****ing warrior.
     
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  3. MrMagic

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    Your distaste over Lewis must come to an end, his chin wasn't that shaky buddy. :hey
     
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  4. box03

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    I agree the punch tyson hit botha with was right on the button, but the accumalation of punches williams took was more impressive to me. When tyson had him dancing I thought it was going to over in the 1st round but I was wrong, the man got heart.
     
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  5. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    What does that mean? That Vitali would automatically win because his brother won? Sanders knocked out Wlad and Vitali knocked out Sanders. I believe Wlad is the better puncher and far faster than Vitali so Botha would have more chances to get inside and make it a fight. Cant you see Botha making that trademark sound when he throws his punches, and wearing down Vitali till he finally crumbles late in the 10th? :happy
     
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  6. Jazzo

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    I am bumping this thread up because I have always liked Botha for some odd reason.

    My opinion is that it would be a very good workout for Klitschko.
     
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  7. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    In what way? Vitali is only older, and he still retains Sdunek who will get him nowhere when and if he faces some real fighters. With exception to Lewis, Vitali has fought noone that can fire back and put up a fight. Wlad on the other hand has learned how to deal with a serious threat and push on. However the dreamers want to spin it, I still retain that Lewis knew he was going to drop rounds fighting the way he needed to fight against Vitali, but eventually would break Vitali down, and he did. Lewis fought an uncharacteristic fight because he thought Vitali would fold up, its just Vitali was feeling tough that night, so it took a little longer. Lewis could have easily stayed back and outboxed Vitali if he so chose.
     
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  8. elTerrible

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    Sanders won the first round, Vitali dominated the last 7.
     
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  9. elTerrible

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    Lewis came in fat. He thought he was gonna fight Kirk Johnson which is why he didnt train hard. With two weeks notice Johnson gets hurt, they put in Vitali who was gonna be on the undercard. Vitali is a much tougher fight than Johnson, and now Lewis is ****ed, fighting Vitali when hes not ready.
     
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  10. box03

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    Your right Vitali was a stand in for kirk johnson, it makes sense why Lewis fought in such a sloppy manner. That was one hell of a fight.
     
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  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Even if lewis was in top form he would have fought the same way. Remember he told his good friend Corrie Sanders how to fight Wlad? He knew when you pressured these guys they fell apart. Just so happens Vitali was a little tougher than he expected. Lewis would have beat him anyway anytime, he created a myth about Vitali, because hes not that great of a fighter.
     
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  12. Zakman

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    Uh, I never even MENTIONED Lewis. :huh
     
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  13. LennoxGOAT

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    Botha is a grossly underrated heavy, but Vitali would beat him. How? Refer to Wlad-Botha.

    But for the record, and this is to all the old time nuthuggers, Botha would beat Quarry. Fact.
     
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  14. Jazzo

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    Vitaly only KOES him that fast if The White Buffalo has lost the will to fight. It took Klitschko 8 rounds to dispose of Williams.

    At this stage in Botha's career, he is not a real threat to Vitali, but he may hang on in there hoping that Klitschko injures himself. As we have seen (and heard), Klitschko has somewhat of a glass body.

    In light of this, it would be a decent workout for Vitaly at least.
     
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  15. boxingabc123

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    Yea that was one hell of a shot. It was probably Tyson's best one punch knockout.
     
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