Frazier crushes Ellis. Ref leaps about like a toot.

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I finally saw this on ESPNCl about 2 years ago, great fight while it lasted.
    Interesting that this was Jimmy's first fight since Patterson in Sept. 68; he took 1969 completely off:huh
    Jimmy was tough. Good boxer, decent whiskers, a sharp, stiff right hand that could hurt anyone, an array of punches. Had just completed a super-fecta of Martin-Bonavena-Quarry-Patterson which was impressive to say the least.
     
  3. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    have the fight complete, Ellis did ok in the frst few rounds, but once Joe got going, it turn into a one sided affair.

    I find the last round amazing, As said before, I have NO ideal how Ellis got up from that last knockdown. that was one of Joe's best left hooks on film, perhaps even more impressive than the one that drop Ali in 71. But I leave that up to there own options.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    wheres that video from its good
     
  5. Bummy Davis

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    Once Frazier got warmed up and started to smoke, the body head attack and the pressure was tough to share a ring with
     
  6. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not completely sure because the video description on youtube doesn't give the full details about it, but I believe it's from an edition of Champions Forever called Latin Legends. Other fighters on that version include Duran, Chavez, Kid Gavilan, and Salvador Sanchez.

    http://www.amazon.com/Champions-Forever-Julio-Cesar-Chavez/dp/B00004S898
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ok thanks will have a look for it
     
  8. round15

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    Add Foreman, Liston, Shavers, Lyle, Tyson, Lewis, Tua and all the other heavyweight big punchers as well. None of them would have been able to handle this version of Joe Frazier, let alone stop him.

    It still puzzles me how people on this forum can't differentiate between the conditioning of this version Frazier who fought Ellis and the fighter that Foreman knocked out in 1973. Sure, Frazier was only two years removed from the FOTC, but his visible decline was self evident in the Daniels and Stander fights before losing to Foreman.

    I won't argue against those that strongly suggest this version of Frazier would taste the canvas early against the bigger punching heavyweights, especially Foreman and Liston. I'd be hard pressed to believe that any of them would stop this version of Frazier. In fact, I'd say Joe beats all of the above big punchers, stopping almost all of them well before the 15 round distance.

    Lennox Lewis is the only fighter out of this group that would pose the most serious threat against the prime, late 1960's version of Frazier.
     
  9. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Although I'd favor Foreman '73-'74 over any Frazier, I have argued that '68-'71 Frazier, plus a referee who takes a dim view of shoving off, would be only a short-odds underdog against any Foreman.
     
  10. My2Sense

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    That was partly because Ellis had suffered some serious injuries in the Patterson fight, including a busted nose and a busted hand.
     
  11. Blacc Jesus

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    Hell yeah. Down right vicious.