Frazier - Dead On His Feet?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Putting out a great effort doesn't mean that you aren't done compared to the fighter you once were.
     
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    im like piretty hammered right now..but seriousely jersey joe walcott is amazigmng
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    When you use the term "on his death bed" that ,imo is egging the pudding,or if you prefer, a wild exaggeration.If Frazier was done after FOTC where does that leave Ali who was older, and ,was in the other corner for all 3 fights?
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I meant it literally, as he was in the hospital and nearly died after the FOTC.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Nearly died my arse. As far as i know lol. Christ, there's people in hospital near death for weeks that live. That's near dead.
     
  6. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really impressed with the insight shown in this commentary from a young Foreman.
     
  7. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nobody mentions the fact that Frazier wasn't in great shape for Foreman and a lot of his later fights.
     
  8. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Of all the boxers in the world to say that... :lol:
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    To be fair, during his comeback Foreman didn't look like he hit the road all that often. :yep
     
  10. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Nice avatar Chris... you sponsoring Somali Pirates now???

    Foreman was an 'old man' in his comeback era...... successful at that. Love to know how these 'genuine moderns' keep such a brilliant physical nature in their 40's.

    You'd have to imagine Joe enjoyed his success from FOTC, and that detiorated him for the mix up with Foreman in Jamaica. Joe was a fool as a champion after FOTC.
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    No need for that, give them a life raft, a long stick, an RPG and an AK47 and they **** all over billion dollar navies that have nuclear subs and aircraft carriers. :rofl
     
  12. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    Before the Ali fight, Joe's average weight was 205. After, it was 215. He never got into top shape again...
     
  13. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    For three of them, the answer to that is: not anymore.
     
  14. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody mentions the fact that Joe got up six times against Foreman, who was starting to breath heavy after the last knockdown. The interview with Don Dunphy after the fight is self evident of his fatigue.

    Frazier wasn't shot in this fight against Foreman because he still had the boxing skills to make this fight a respectable contest. What is plainly obvious is that he was far from the shape he exhibited from the FOTC. This is the very reasoning why I believe the Joe Frazier of 1967 - 1970 would have done considerably better against Foreman. Foreman would not have been able to hit prime Frazier as cleanly as he did in 1973, and he would have definitely been on the receiving end of Fraziers body attack.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Foreman was in a very "natural shape" for a man his age.

    He worked out damned hard, and was still strong as an ox. BUT he ate what he wanted whenever he wanted.