Frazier is overated to make Ali look better.

You overrate your own intelligence.

 

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Yes. Let us know when they arrive, will you?

 

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU3xop5PEwk[/ame]

 

At this point you just have to micro glance at the thread title. All this pot stirring is leading to heavy overcooking. Too many dummy accounts with 432 posts and 721 posts. The tightness of the policies around here makes this a bad joke. This would be much funnier if they could make it look like actual ******s were posting this crap. The resident ******s fall for it regardless tho. Christ. Keep it up boys. Why not... Yeah.

 

Overate?

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stupid thread.

 

Frazier was a bobbing, weaving swarmer, but he is overrated. He was nowhere near as good as other swarmers like Dempsey, Marciano and Tyson.

In this video, Ali himself agrees and admits that Marciano was better than Joe Frazier. At the end, he even says that Marciano probably would have beaten him. Ali is much more realistic than his nuthuggers on ESB.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDaw2QFC1Qg[/ame]

 

Ali gives deference to a former champ. Its respect.

Any man with eyes and some film can see 67 Ali would have utterly shredded Marciano.

Also, Frazier was a great heavyweight. Fought great, beat good fighters. Is he top 5? No. I don't even have him top 10. But top 15, imo, is inarguable. And that is greatness. You hate.

 

I think a Marciano-Ali fight would probably go to Marciano by decision, but I would never bet on it because it's too close to call. However, Ali himself clearly says at the very end of the previous video "He may have won, he probably would have, it's up to the imagination."

Anyway, here's another brief clip of Ali explaining why Marciano would have given him a hard time:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXxTv7k_5RY&NR=1[/ame]

 

60 year old Jersey Joe Walcott took Marciano to the brink(not to mention Lastarza) and you think Marciano who was even smaller then Frazier takes down Ali or Frazier?

Ali is like Bernard Hopkins when it comes to legends he gives respect where its due. Ali would be a massive favorite going into the fight so would Frazier.

 

Styles make fights,true but Ali fought against and beat guys with every conceivable style even though some gave him trouble.He did this over a time period from the early sixties until 1980,and you say he's overrated? Also if you're trying to make a case for Tyson being the ultimate "bob and weave" pressure fighter who would beat Ali then you obviously haven't watched much of Tyson.On the inside and for applying constant pressure Frazier was far superior to Tyson who was very average on the inside Ali would have tied him in knots in there.All of Tysons best work was from mid range even though he was a short armed fighter.