Frazier is overated to make Ali look better.

These Klit fanboys are out of control.

Frazier overrated now.

Yesterday it way Holyfield.

The day before it was Tyson.

No one in history beats the Klits because they are so tall and mean. When will this nonsense stop.

Do any of you think Sanders was overrated when he made Wlad look like an extra from a I, Robot.

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Listen to this bozo...

His proof of Joe's great chin was that he was only koed once.

But this idiot did not address my prev question. how many HW with ATG power did Fraizer fight? Let me guess...also ONE?

So he got koed by the only HW with great power he fought, wow what a testament to his great chin.

What?? :huh

What has this got to do with anything.

Lewis is another guy whose chin is not great. His style may not be exactly that of Joe's but he got into brawls when he has to. He accomplished far more than what Joe did.

Tommy Hearns can be a brawler at times. His chin is no granite either.

So what exactly is you point again?
Fraizer's style fitted well against Ali. He has got great left hook - which is Ali's weakness all his career. Ali has always been susceptible to left hooks. Furthermore, Ali has no 1-punch KO power, again making him Joe's style well as he can take what Ali can dish and be able to come forward (the only style he knows).

Just because he is a come forward brawler, does not necessarily mean his chin is granite.

Dumb****. :tong

Again we are all witnessing your E-toughness. You must be inducted in the keyboard gladiator HOF. :hi: :happy

 

Ali is definitely one if not the greatest heavyweight of all time.You'll only see glimpses of ALI handspeed and footwork in TODAY'S heavies but none like ALI.The man was tough too. I mean he got hit like you won't believe no heavy can take rnd after rnd specially glass*****litcho brothers IMO.

 

Ali had power as Jack explained to your dumbass. He KO'd or stopped alot of Heavyweights who very durable. He threw everything but the kitchen sink at Frazier and couldnt KO him. The only time he stopped him was a corner stoppage because his eyes were both swollen shut, which Frazier would have won because Ali about to quit you ****ing ***, as referenced in the documentary thrilla in manilla, do you get HBO in your little hamlet?

Who was Koing and beating modern heavyweights when he was nearly 50 years old you ****ing idiot. The guy Evander said hit him the hardest. Evander Holyfield who fought Tyson, Bowe and Lewis said Foreman hit him the hardest.

Yeah Fraziers chin was glass.

Name one fighter that Lewis beat on the caliber of Muhammad Ali.

Tommy Hearns was a boxer clown. Against fighters he was smaller then he boxed off the back foot. Only against guys he could KO easily did he go all out. Against Hagler did he brawl you ****ing idiot? Know he boxed him off the back foot until he was KO'd.

Frazier was more like Hagler then Hearns you ****ing idiot. Frazier was always smaller then his opposition, yet came forward the same. I cant beleive you compared Hearns to Frazier.

 

Agreed.

Frazier is just another ridiculously overrated American heavyweight.

Prime For Prime...Either Klitschko destroys Frazier.

 

I really don't see Ali surviving vs. either Klitschko either. Ali just couldn't control the range, the pace, the tempo of the fight. Ali is just too small and would be the one to have to take the risks, while avoiding getting harpooned with crushing jabs right hands and hooks. Ali just did not have the power to deal with such complete fast powerful intelligent fighting machines like the two Klitschkos. If Ali were 6-6 250 pounds it's another story. But at 6-2 220, Ali gets dominated and slaughtered.

Just like in 20 or 30 years there is going to be a hwt monster who comes along and would make the Klitschkos look obsolete, inferior and dated, like Ali and Frazier look now. I reckon it will be a 8ft giant from China or something.

 

Ali was 6'3. Which is bigger then most of Klitsckos opponents. He would have boxed circles around the Klitsckos. Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster kicked Wlads ass. :rofl

 

Agree.

 

I know, you should see the one with Bobby Pacquiao defending Mayweather. :roll:

 

Another ******ed Klitschko hater.

You can't outbox a Klitschko. It's impossible.

That rope a dope bull**** wouldn't work against a Klitschko.

Styles make fights, Either Klitschko destroys Ali.

 

Yeah, because that's all there is to Frazier. A few fights with Ali and that's it. :roll:

 

He KOed or stopped...

You don't know jack **** so you try to look for other poster's to back you up.

Ali's stoppages aredue to accumulation of punches that mostly resulted to cuts.

Which durable Hw has he KOed due to punching power? Let me guess, the phantom punch against Liston? atsch

Heck he is peppering Henry Cooper's head but could not put him down. A LHW Doug Jones stood toe to toe with him and he could not hurt him if his life depended on it.

You complete ****ing moron.Nobody is contesting here about Foreman's power. Did I ever argue about Foreman's KO power?

And even going by your argument, which modern HW has Foreman KOed?? Oh yeah, I guess Michael Moorer is now granite chin to you? You ****ing idiot.

If you are here by my side I would have already swatted you in the head with a ream of paper. :tong

 

Corrie sanders, Lamon Brewster, and Ross Purrity beat Klitsckos ass and you think he would beat Ali? :rofl

Ali looks good fighting guys who are 6'1 250lbs. Against ali he'd be fighting a great athlete who is faster and a better boxer then he is.


Rope a dope. You obviously never seen Ali in his prime. He would have clowned the Klitsckos.

The Klitsckos are lucky to be fighting in a weak era and they still lost 5 fights between em. Pathetic really. Larry Holmes who fought in a weak era didnt lose his first fight until he was 36.

 

Agreed. Good post.

 

:rofl