Frazier Nearly Destoryed Ali -

A broken jaw, and a stoppage in the mid-rounds, I believe. :yep



In all honesty, I give Louis credit for doing what he's done in his time, but I'm just not big enough of a believer in him to think he would be able to beat many fighters who followed decades after his time in the sport. Definitely not Frazier.

 

Frazier would give hell to Louis as well and might even beat him if they fought once. If they fought 3 times like Frazier and Ali did then I think Frazier would win 2 of them, but i cant see Louis not winning one .

 

Louis had difficulty with left hookers, Tony Galento being one of them. Frazier would have brought far more speed, power and athleticism to the table than someone like Galento, as well as many of Louis's opponents. You would always have to give Louis a chance, but frankly, I'd have to go with Frazier on this one.

 

Louis was a far more complete fighter than any heavyweight from the 70s.

It would be more sensible to say that Frazier was good for his time.

 

I'm not saying he wasn't complete, I just don't believe that the skills Louis possesses would be up to par with decades to follow. Mainly his power. And I don't think his defense is as great as people say, he'd be getting hit very often by Frazier, and I'm sure Frazier hits a hell of a lot harder than Schmeling.

 

Verry little or verry much depending on how long the fight goes.

Frazier is going to be coming towards Louis and walking into his combinations. This will result in him taking a horific beating. It is quite likley that Louis will achieve a Foreman style stopage in the early rounds.

If he dosnt then Frazier's pressure and workrate will start to take their toll in the mid rounds. In this scenario Louis will have to dig deep to stay in the fight.

 

I agree.

 

You can't compare Louis to Foreman style. Fraizer is a better fighter than anyone Louis fought.

 

Frazier didn't just walk into punches. In fact, his ability to bob, weave and avoid shots was remarkable for a heavyweight. Certainly better than anyone Louis fought.

How so? Foreman and Louis were nothing like each other stylistically. What's more, George possesed more power than Louis, and still Frazier continued to get up and come back at him. Lastly, Frazier by 1973, wasn't even 100%, as he was developing health problems. Therefore, the version of Frazier who fought Foreman can't be used to make comparrisons when doing dream matchups.

 

Yeh? I especially liked the way Frazier managed to bob, weave and avoid Foremans slow, telegraphed power punches.

Fraziers defense was rubbish, certainly the worst of the heavyweight swarmers - Tyson, Dempsey and even Marciano.

Foreman possessed more power, but Louis was a far better puncher with better punch efficiency, and much more accurate shots.

Would someone please like to explain to me in detail what "skills" Frazier learnt that Louis didn't because he fought two decades later?

Does John Ruiz possess more "skills" than Mike Tyson because he came around later? Will all of todays pro heavyweights learn more skills than Tyson having begun their careers two decades later?

Please.