Frazier Reigns Longer As Champ in the Early 80s?

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  1. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So, let's say Foreman, Ali, Norton, and Holmes lost their titles in the 70s and retired. A young Joe Frazier is gifted the vacated title.

    Let's think about the opposition, including (but not limited to) Page, Coetzee, Weaver, Thomas, etc.

    Could Frazier have dominated, perhaps even up to (and/or including) the uprising of Tyson later in the decade?
     
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  2. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. Im a fan of Frazier. He bought a lot of energy to his fights
     
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  3. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I don't think so.
    There were a lot of punchers around;
    Weaver
    Shavers
    Cooney
    Coetzee
    Smith
    Bruno
    Witherspoon
    Mercado
    Boxer punchers
    Page
    Dokes
    Thomas
    Tubbs
    I wouldn't necessarily pick any single one to beat Joe ,but if he takes the champion route, [ as opposed to the Stander/ Daniels one,]he doesn't get through that bunch.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    As above, to many big hitters, one at least could get him.
     
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  5. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I don't think so. He wasn't a fighter built for longevity. Would've had a similar reign I think.
     
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  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes.

    Nobody was going to deal with his conditioning and workrate. And they sure were not going to absorb very many of those left hooks to the breadbasket. Come to think of it, I don't think they absorb all those right hands to the body.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Yes. Running into Ali and Foreman ain't helping anybodies reign.
     
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  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what got me first thinking, and of course I agree.
    All of the below opponents are considered fighting S
    moking Joe, as opposed to the mostly non-smoking Joe post-FOTC.​

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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Probably not. Too many talented big men—movers and punchers. But most were highly inconsistent, so it’s possible the stars would’ve aligned.
     
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  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Prime from 67--71 was focused sharp and still hungry. He would beat those guys. How many of those guys can take his shots? We know Frazier is gonna keep coming, he isn't going anywhere
     
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  11. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Can he take their shots? The only top puncher he faced used him as a yo yo!
     
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  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Well, since they're not ATGs I think we're supposed to assume that there's no way any of them could possibly hurt Frazier.
     
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  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Short answer...YES!
     
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