Frazier & Tyson who is greater?

Tyson for me but then I rate him probably higher than most do at his best and I think Frazier all things considered is slightly over rated by those who rate him amongst the highest

 

I'd pick Tyson hth, 12 round or 15, either if they were time machined together from their own times, or if they were born into a common era. I'm not saying Joe couldn't win, as their mutual come-foreward styles might make for a lot of infighting; but I'd favor Mike.

As ATG heavyweights it's hard to make a pick. I'm a little inclined to go with Frazier, but it's very debatable.

 

Tyson is all wrong for Frazier........Tyson is stronger, faster and hit harder (Frazier was fast and powerful too)......
Frazier had a higher workrate and heart, but I don´t think this would be enough to beat Tyson......

 

Tyson has the much deeper resume and he has the superior skills, defence, 2 fisted, more powerful. So I'd pick him over Frazier without hesitation

 

The FOTC is the "icing on the cake" which makes Frazier greater than Tyson.

To me, it's the greatest win in Heavyweight history, bar none.

 

Tyson is just a dog. Frazier would take his heart and kick his ass all over the ring.

 

I tend to view it as the primary case for his being greater than Mike more than an icing, and really it was that great. All said, Tyson was far more dominant, just as if not more deep in resume and actually trumps in longevity.

As actual fighters, Frazier had the greater work rate, stamina, true inside skills and presumably more heart. Tyson was bigger, stronger, significantly more power and speed, better combination puncher, counterpuncher, finisher. Frazier's left hook was debiliating and workman-like, Tyson's was a megaton bomb. And that was just one of three he could put your lights out with. :yep

 

Tyson is greater. He has more depth and better longevity. Frazier has the best win by far between them but Tyson had his comeback and title unification.

Tyson has a style advantage. Frazier was a notoriously slow starter and a bit vilnerable early while Tyson was a fast starter who is used taking even very good fighters out early with great power and speed. Tyson stops Frazier early.

I like Frazier far, far more than Tyson though.

 

This.

 

Frazier is greater, had tighter heart, and only lost to Ali and Foreman, and he beat one of those guys when they were closer to their best than anyone else.

 

Personally I think Foreman over Frazier trumps both. I don't see why people give me stick for it, but all things considered he beat a 29-0 Frazier after beatin Ali decisively and beat the **** out of him for 2 rounds before it was stopped.

Anyway onto the actual thread. Frazier is ar greater in my eyes. All you have to do is look who he's lost to. Foreman and Ali. He also has a win over Ali and some nice wins on his resume like Quarry x2, Ellis x2, Bugner, Mathis and a few others. Tyson's resume has it's ups with ok depth but his loses are far more telling than Frazier's. Frazier's show he can't nessecarilly compete with the top 5 ATGs over a sustained period. Tysons defeats to Holy (although past his best) and Douglas (**** off with your excuses) suggest he wouldn't be able too compete with the top 10 over a sustained period of time

However prime for prime Tyson trumps Frazier in the H2H department

 

I favour Tyson H2H, but have him a good 4-5 places below Frazier in my All time HW rankings.