Frazier vs Marciano

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  1. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Marciano did have better two handed power. He displayed it against older, somewhat shopworn opponents. I concede his left had more KO pop than Joe's right carried.
    To call Joe a one handed fighter is dead wrong. Not accurate. His right was always in the mix and he had coordination. Double hooks, under and over, over and under. Right to the body, right uppercut. Joe Bugner learned this as did Jerry Quarry in their rematch.
     
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  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    If Eddie Futch was the chief second I wouldnt be suprised if he had Joe stand up and box Rocky's ears off. Left jab with Rock looking for the hook Frazier popping him with the right he didn't have. If you it watch his fight with Quarry in '73. Marciano was much greater than Quarry and would give stiffer resistance but once that blood starts flowing its restricts vision. Rock cuts just as often as Jerry did and was shorter and smaller than Quarry.
     
  3. ETM

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    Lacked consistancy? He turned pro in '64 after winning the Gold Medal by the way). Didn't lose a fight until 1973. He didn't lose for 9 years facing the toughest around at the time. He was a slouch.
     
  4. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe is a classic example of a fighter with no right hand. Only hwt champion to never knock down any opponent with his right..... never a one.

    Joe lacked coordination between his left and right making it difficult for him to use that right in combination with his left. With Joe it was mostly right hands to the body as this is an easy stationary target to aim for.

    Joe stated himself his right was a work in progress very late into his career.
     
  5. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    One of my favourite ever matchups. A can't miss slugfest. I'm leaning towards Frazier in this one.
     
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  6. Rainer

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    How long have you been chanting this mantra, and under how many aliases?
     
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  7. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All factual. If you don’t like the facts I can’t help you.
     
  8. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    You are the classic ignoramus who believes in his own tiny mind he is right and everybody else knows nothing. There is nothing to be learned in debating with you except the depths one fools self delusion can descend to.
     
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  9. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Untrue. Been following the sport since 1970. Nothing I am posting is inaccurate.

    Frazier never knocked down anyone with his right hand. Only hwt champion that I am aware of with this dubious distinction.

    Frazier’s lack of a right hand/right hand coordination is well known and understood. Stop being a FAN and instead look for and appreciate the truth. I used to be like you, a fan, but over the years find much more fulfillment in understanding boxing history as it was. Not as I’d like it to be.
     
  10. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    And I've been following it, and practicing it since the 60's.
     
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  11. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you have been doing so since the ‘60s you still have so much to learn. I’ve found European boxing fans have in general a distorted view of American boxing history. Lacking depth.
     
  12. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    What makes you think I'm European?
     
  13. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Lol, i will go one closer and take a stab at Kent!

    I was in 2 minds at first but a blind man can see it bud.
     
  14. Rainer

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    I live in a village called Knock, that's not even in England.
     
  15. KasimirKid

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    I think the weight difference would pose a challenge to Rocky, but due to Rocky's short stature and crouching stance I doubt that Joe's bob and weave would be much of a factor.