Frazier vs other ATG

In which group would Liston belong, Mac? (Can I call you Mac?)

 

The fighters I'd favour Frazier to beat (from my top 20) are:

Marciano
Dempsey
Patterson
Walcott (close'un)
Schmeling
Bowe
Charles (close)


50/50-ish:

Tunney
Jeffries
Jackson
Wills
Holyfield


Frazier loses to:

Foreman
Liston
Louis
Lewis
Tyson
Ali
Holmes
Johnson

 

Like this split

 

Lewis against Frazier would be comical viewing.

 

The Joe Frazier who defeated Ali (1971) would´ve have beaten Joe Louis (pts 15), Patterson (KO 1), Larry Holmes (pts 15), Mike Tyson (KO 8), Rocky Marciano (TKO 10) and Dempsey (pts 15).
George Foreman had his number. Keeping Frazier off-balance Foreman prevented Frazier from fireing bombs.
Brian Nielsen ........:-( :-( :-( :-(

 

Yeah, Lewis had a funny way of falling !

 

It had early Liston stoppage all over it, even quicker than Foreman maybe. Thing is that if Frazier survived past about the fourth or fifth and hing in there the tide could perhaps convievable turn for him ... but Frazier was mostly a slow starter and Liston holds most of the aces here.


Frazier is saved by the ref/his corner in the 4th after a few knockdowns.

 

According to Holmes he completely outboxed Frazier during their sparring-sessions.
He may be right - Holmes always looked great in sparring. Even aginst Ali (1973 and 1974) he looked like the champion outjabbing Ali.

 

I hate disrespecting Frazier, but there are just a few matches I can't see him winning and this is one of. Lewis was bigger and just as strong as Foreman, hit equally as hard too with better delivery and boxing fundamentals. He was also faster and a better athlete. Frazier was very tough and of course could punch, but Lewis would keep away from his left hook and look to land big bombs himself before Frazier gets going, the uppercut is going to spell trouble for Frazier too. I think Lewis would pore it on early and get his punches off first.


Lewis by KO around the 3rd or 4th.