Frazier vs punchers gauntlet

Agree with all of that, it's all about styles, which is why you have to take each mythical matchup on its own merit and weigh up the pros and cons of both fighters.

 

Dempsey fought
Fulton
Firpo
Willard

Louis fought
M Baer
B Baer
Galento
Mauriello
Schmeling

Liston fought
DeJohn
Williams
Valdes

Lewis fought
Tyson
Tua
V Klitschko
Morrison
Bruno
Briggs
Weaver
Butler
Ruddock

Tyson fought
Smith
Ruddock
Bruno
Lewis

Lyle fought
Foreman
Shavers

 

Who did Frazier actually knock out?

 

Not exactly sure how people are picking Joe over Lewis. Sure he has a chance, but I certainly wouldn't favor him over Lewis. It's Lewis' fight to lose imo

 

I wouldn't with any great confidence pick Frazier to beat Tua .Lewis did what he wanted to Tua.

 

Bob Foster ... Point taken.

I know who all these champs fought, there just seemed to be a lot of one way traffic so I had to come to Joe's rescue. I guess I was a little surprised that's all. I just dread to think how people would view his chin if he got stopped by Flynn in 1, or McCall in 2 or Brewster in 5

 

Dempsey, louis, maybe marciano, maybe older foreman win, tua also

 

I disagree. Frazier in his penultimate fight, took monster shots from Foreman without taking the count. Foreman was a better puncher than both Shavers and Cooney. I just can't ever see Frazier staying down for the count against anybody.

 

Joe frazier is one of the most underrated guys h2h on this forum.ridiculous

 

Better throw out your predictions then.

 

The opposite is true. A one-trick pony with the H2H rating from beating one of the worst Alis with one of Joes best matchups.

This is a nobrainer.

From mcvey:

Lewis fought
Tyson
Tua
V Klitschko
Morrison
Bruno
Briggs
Weaver
Butler
Ruddock

Considering the fighters Lewis lost to and the way he lost to, plus the sheer amount of punchers the man beat, you can give Joe a punchers chance. Thats it.

 

Dempsey: Great matchup. I lean Frazier--think he takes what Dempsey dishes out better than vice versa

Louis: Another great matchup. Can Louis withstand Frazier's early assault?

Marciano: Frazier. Faster, stronger, and at least as skilled.

Liston: I think Liston stops him in the mid rounds.

Lyle: Frazier

Tyson: Prime Tyson by early stoppage. Basically does everything better than Frazier-- better defensively, better punch repertoire, quicker hands, better technically, greater overall strength, and too much power for Frazier to withstand

Comeback Foreman: Interesting matchup. Gut reaction is Frazier but I think that Frazier's style plays right into Old Foreman's hands (literally). I don't know.

Bowe: mid-round stoppage. I could see Frazier having early success with his hook before Bowe buckles down and starts catching him.

Lewis: Lewis is all wrong for him.

Wlad: Wlad looks harried and under pressure throughout the first half of the fight but comfortably outpoints Joe.

 

He batters Dempsey, Louis and Marciano, might turn the trick against Liston if he can get past his jab, outguts Lyle and old Foreman, has a tear up with Bowe (50-50), and gets outboxed and possible stopped by both Lewis and Wlad. Tyson either KOs him brutally, or gets worn down.

 

Daniels stung Frazier? I'll have to see this one on film. Yet another case of a guy hardly landing much who stung Frazier? More evidence Frazier could not take a good punch.

Daniels lost to every decent fighter he meet. His resume of wins prior to meeting Frazier was built weak competition. Judge for yourself.

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Louis would kill Frazier