Frazier's Power

He hit like a truck and did it in a nast way.

His style tended to result in TKOs.

It seems to me that Fraziers oponents (when they slipped one of his punches) thought that they had dodged a bullet.

 

Be fair, MaGrain, he isn't top 5, but Frazier could bang ... he could definitely spark anxiety into an opponent by landing cleanly.

With the size of his legs, lower centre of gravity, the punch mechanics and even the natural crook in his arm, he just got so much whip and body weight into his hook that when it connected it really hit with impact. He had heavy hands and threw a GREAT hook ... BUT ... when he connected, it didn't shock the central nervous system in the way that causes that brain jolt that renders a man unconscious. Perhaps it's because many of Frazier's hooks were sweeping ones and could be seen coming by the opponent, so whilst grinding and definitely resolve-testing, not having the sudden impact of an untelegraphed Louis or Tyson hook?

 

Frazier's Heart was bigger than all of my top 5 heavyweight Sluggers. I will always respect that.

However he is no where near my top in Heavyweight Slugger. His power is very overrated. Tyson, Dempsey, Marciano, Foreman, Louis, Baer, Lewis, Liston, Tua, Shavers,....I can go on.

A lot of CHAMPIONS and CONTENDERS had more power than Smokin Joe did. Smokin joe is know for his relentless pressure and his Heavy Heart just like you said Mcgrain.

 

Frazier's left hook is one of the most powerful punches in heavyweight history.

Everyone has a different list of the most powerful punchers of all time for heavyweight fighters. I'd rank Foreman #1, followed by Shavers, Liston, Lennox Lewis, Tyson, Tua and Joe Louis.

I think Frazier ranks in the top ten, arguably ahead of Dempsey and Marciano. Frazier wasn't a one punch knockout fighter and is known for wearing down his opponents. I do believe his power is underrated, especially in his right hand whom many on this forum have said is non-existent. Frazier gained natural power in his right hand as a converted southpaw. The rear foot is always the power punch side in the orthodox boxing stance. Frazier had enough right hand power to hurt Quarry, Bonavena, Ellis and Joe Bugner.

 

Cetainly not in the top 5 ,and not the top 10 for me,he was a good puncher but not in the class of quite a few others as a one punch ko artist. A volume puncher who usually wore his man down with pressure and non stop aggression.

 

This is how I see it too.

 

yup, Sure is.:smoke

 

It wasn't the power that did it, or that made him special. It was that unflinching, undeterred inevitability he embodied. When people speak of him they mention heart, but it was nothing so mundane. Joe Frazier was a lunatic, a madman and a demon.

Inside the squared circle, at least. I've never seen a fighter with such disregard for pain.

 

Frazier had Ali out on his feet in the FOTC 11th, and on his butt in the 15th.

Cooper & Wepner had Ali down too....Wepner via the ol' step on his foot technique.

 

Agree with everything said ... I just think that Frazier's power has become underrated over the years.

I do, however, disagree with Frazier's notion that the hook isn't a "secret punch" ... I've found the untelegraphed hook to be a most concussive weapon to have in a fighter's repertoire, though, I must say that of course it's a benefit if a fighter can mix up the length of the hooks to throw the opponent off catching the rhythm and then ... BAM ... a Dempseyesque short hook to the unsuspecting jaw.