Fred Apostoli vs Roy Jones @ 160

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  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who you got? Can the, in my opinion, underappreciated Apostoli repeat the kind of performance that ended Freddie Steele's run at the very top, or does Jones take it? :think
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hm, Jones is a strange case, when I think about matchups with him my first urge is always to pick him. He looked so damned dominant and awesome. But then I start thinking about who he fought and I get more and more reluctant to pick him.

    Apostoli is more proven than Jones and can knock him out. Jones has the speed and skills to avoid that and beat him. Thing is, Jones never fought a mw as good as Apostoli and was terribly inexperienced there. He fought three good guys there. Workman but hard puncher Jorge Fernando Castro, novice but future atg Bernard Hopkins and average but two-weightclass contender Thomas Tate. Ask yourself two things: is that enough experience to take on a veteran mw borderline atg like Apostoli? Can you honestly pick such a fighter, as much of a phenom as he was, over someone like Apostoli? Personally, I just can´t.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very well put Bodhi...I agree.
     
  4. Commando

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    even though Jones was inexperienced i still have to pick him. I mean Jones was just too phenomal at Middle and Super Middle even when he was inexperienced.

    Jones TKO8
     
  5. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    from the little i've seen of apostoli, i'm very impressed but jones too big and too fast imo. jones by ud.
     
  6. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tough to call. Jones' speed could trouble anyone, but Apostoli might grind him down the way he did to Steele.
     
  7. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would take Jones by unanimous decision. Too much speed and power.
     
  8. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overlins movement was the blueprint to victory over Fred and Roy's a great mover.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jones mid-round KO, I like Apostoli and his slick defensive moves but Jones would get off first and hurt him while being a very elusive target, too much speed, too much power
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Given it was enough experience to beat James Toney you mean? His fight prior to Toney was at 160
     
  11. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He had quite a few fights at 168 though.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes but the 1 prior to that was at 160, most champs in history have many over the weight limit fights - Armstrong (only had 13 below the FW limit if memory serves me rightly), Greb, Walker, Toney.....
     
  13. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So? Sorry, I don´t get what´s your argument here? Do you really want to compare the experience of Jones at mw to that of Apostoli? Or their opposition?
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats beside the point, your point was Jones isn't experienced enough to hang with Apostoli, despite the fact he was experienced enough to dominate Hopkins and Toney, and Mallinga during that period who was a top168lb contender
     
  15. bodhi

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    Dominating a novice Hopkins, a weight-drained Toney and a Malinga is something different to facing a guy who is at his very best and very experienced at the very top who knows every trick in the book. Apostoli would be head and shoulders above the Hopkins and Toney Jones fought.