Freddie is a sly fox. Pacquiao plans on coming in to the fight a 'True' Welterweight

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  1. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    I agree, the guy is a genetic freak. Though, you still have to question the possibility of hormones involved here. I only say that because when was the last time that someone was able to move up in weight the amount of weight he stacked on, NOT to mention, putting on weight from the 130s (not light heavy); smaller guys fighting at lighter weights over all just don't have that large of a frame to put on that much big weight while still maintaining or even exceeding their speed and power at a much higher weight, even when they are genetic freaks. When was the last time you saw someone put on that much weight and maintain power and speed? Like in baseball, when you had a guy averaging 35hr a year go up to 60, sure, everyone went along with the ride, but that sure as hell was fishy. No doubt, if Manny wins, no excuses.

    I still have Cotto by TKO. Although Manny does look fast and strong, I am not convinced how good he is against a true elite welterweight. Hatton was a good junior welterweight that relied on his physicality to out muscle guys and we saw how Pacquiao blew him away, so I figure this fight will be competitive up to the point that either man starts breaking down. 8 oz gloves, two hard hitters, something's gotta soften up and give in.
     
  2. tay sachs

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    according to Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) executive director Keith Kaiser, Mayweather Sr.’s claims that Pacquiao was on steroids is not entirely true. According to Kaiser, the athletic body never fails to conduct a steroid testing on Pacquiao, his opponents or anyone who plays in Nevada.




    Pacquiao has always passed every steroid test did to him.


    The commission regulates all boxing competition in the whole of Nevada. They act as the final authority on licensing matters. They have the option to deny, approve, revoke, or suspend all licenses for boxing matches.
    It is regarded as the pre-eminent state athletic commission since Nevada is considered as center for combat sports.




    Kaiser stressed that all boxers undergo a tight drug-testing program before they are allowed to fight.
    The commission usually obtain blood or urine sample before and after a fight to test for anabolic steroids and other illegal drugs.




    According to Pacquiao’s coach, Freddie Roach, a slander case is currently well under way against Floyd Mayweather Sr.
    Roach said that he already talked with Pacquiao and that the pound for pound king agrees that Mayweather Sr. must be held liable for his words.


    pretty old story. no substance.
     
  3. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    no more gma kapuso channel for this guy. :lol:
     
  4. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    It has nothing to do with the story or opinion Mayweather Sr released. Its a fact many high athletes in various sports (including Olympians) use illegal performance enhancers. And depending on what they are taking, how long it stays in their system, and what the commissions are testing for, allow for many of these athletes to pass regular testing. There are many masking agents, methods used, and possibly enhancers not tested for that . I am not calling Pac out on it, since nothing has been proven, but I am saying is that its not usual for a guy in a lower weight class, or any weight class for that matter, to jump up so many pounds while still maintaining speed and even gaining power.
     
  5. chimba

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    :lol: Donaire is the one getting on my nerves the most. This kids doing celebrity duets, every chance of being on TV.

    "Hey Im Nonito Donaire, thanks for watching Kapuso, I really dont live here I prefer Cali but man I get to be on TV. and oh btw, I have it so good here that I dont really need to fight anymore"

    Id love for RA Ruggedman to do an interview with Nonito, "Hey Nonito, why you not fighting top 2 guy in your weight class?" and "I aint riding your dick, Im telling you you had one good win so stop singing karaoke"
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I am not an expert as to have a whole answer, but take Lance Armstrong for example, the most tested man in sports who never tested positive. The greatest bicyclist america has produced...theres a point where you have to look at his training regimen..The man is on his bike 8 hrs a day during the off-season. I see the same thing with Pac, I get ****in tired just watching this guy train.

    Like I said, I am not making any prediction..but based on what I'm seeing though, if Cotto digs that body and Pac raises his hands, he will get a beating worse than the Margo beating. In fairness, thats a big if
     
  7. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    Isabel oli died in her telenovela. :|
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    She died already? The one that was found in the river at the beginning of the show was her. I know that but I missed the last two episodes when the girl was raped and now shes dead?
     
  9. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    yes she drowned in the pool when clarissa pushed her. :D
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Speed with lots of power.
     
  11. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Freddie roach knows what hes doing putting manny into this fight. Im pretty sure now that Ariza has made pacquiao into something approaching a natural WW. Whats the reason for this though? Look at the history. Pacquiao fights hoya at 147 (to let pacquiaos body loose to see what the highest weight is he can acheive without extensive high calorie intake). Then they fought hatton at 140 (A more natural weight for pacquiao). Now i think their testing mannys body against a natural WW to see how he performs at the highest level in the new weight. All of this is a pre cursor to one of two things. Manny is set to fight PBF at WW no catchweights and no excuses for floyd or manny or manny plans on moving up to 154 for another divisional title.
     
  12. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The question you have to ask though, is pacquiao actually getting better as he climbs through the weights.
     
  13. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal People should rewatch his fights at the lower weights. How the hell can this guy be fighting Cotto. Miguel Cotto for goodness sake, an elite WW.
     
  14. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    That's what Floyd is hoping before he gets to face the winner.
     
  15. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :admin x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2 THANK YOUUUUU. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY AND WAS THE ONLY ONE that thought the exact same thing!!!