Freddie roach: “judah almost knocked him out…and zab is ordinary”

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  1. titan

    titan Active Member Full Member

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    log off. find a shotgun and shoot yourself. the world needs one less idiot.

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  2. titan

    titan Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl:lol::rofl. pity this *****s.

    michigan warrior. GOW god of war.

    and inflated sense of self perhaps. here comes the warrior gods sent by void himself. :lol:
     
  3. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's fought the best available opposition, he wants to fight Floyd, but Floyd isn't really giving him a chance to prove himself.
     
  4. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zab patient? You keep giving Zab all these great attributes that are better than Pac's but for some reason he never shows them in his fights... You keep saying Pac is too offensive minded, but look at the proof in their fights, it's really simple to see that Pac's actually better at counter punching than Zab. I'm confident that if Floyd and Pac ever fight it will show.
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Why did he fight David Diaz then, or Cotto instead of Mosley. How come he never fought Zahir Raheem after he beat the guy that beat him:huh
     
  6. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're saying Pac struggles with counter punchers because he struggled with Marquez, but Marquez and Floyd are completely different types of fighters, and Pacquiao today would probably blow Marquez away. Pac's at a different level. I could twist arguments just like that saying Floyd's been caught by solid shots from southpaws, and conclude that he struggles with them also...
    It's true that Floyd beating Zab was impressive, but we still can't compare it with Pac, because a lot of that could be attribute it to Zab's lack of focus, heart, etc. With that same argument I could have convinced myself that Cotto could beat Pac, but I just knew it wasn't the same.

    Manny Pacquiao is also a lot more unpredictable and harder to read than Zab, which is why I say that if anything I give the stylistic advantage to Pacquiao. Zab, although super fast, and perhaps a harder puncher just felt short as a complete fighter in the elite level.
     
  7. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh great the sorry ass loyal lap dog is back. You never talk boxing.
     
  8. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about his face? His face has a smile of a winner.


    The fact that he's consistently doing that is an evidence that he's improved a lot at every fight.
    He's no longer the one-dimensional fighter that he used to be.


    Here's the guy who knows a lot of boxing. :lol:
     
  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    When the **** did Judah "almost knock Floyd out"? I mean if he wants to call him ordinary, I guess that's his opinion and he's entitled, but why would you as a "boxing guy" do this to your credibility? Dude gets more bizarre with this **** everyday..."Judah almost knocked him out..." WTF.
     
  10. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    COPS? Ah, so there should be enforcers. Are state boxing commissions not enforcers? Did Pac refuse any test required by any boxing commission? Or maybe the Mayweathers, Floyd Sr especially being the most experienced in drugs are now deputized as enforcers since they're the ones accusing and demanding drug test for Pac.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No ****, I hope this was internal dialogue...
     
  12. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: Perhaps you're confusing me with a fan that excuses fighters...
    I wanted Pac to fight Nate Campbell (I think he would have beaten Zahir, but that's not your point). But the truth is he ended up fighting the better competition in the higher weights and accomplishing a lot more. Cotto was definitely a safer fight than Mosely in the mind of many people, especially when he could fight Cotto who's with Top Rank. You also have to remember that at that time Pac had only fought Oscar at WW and people still tought he was to small to fight perhaps even Cotto which is why the fight was at 145. I believe that if Floyd hadn't fought Mosely in May Pac would be fighting him now and not Margarito. But that's just speculating, which is as much as you can do :good
     
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No your position isn't correct, the commission doesn't set rules, they aren't enforcers at all, they simple set minimum standards to acquire a liscense in their respective states. They are athletic commissions they must liscense athletes in other areas of sport as well, but their "rules" or minimum standards do not trump and/or supersede the rules of the sport. They will enforce and/or investigate issues that involve liscensing, but they are absolutely not the governing body of boxing, period.
     
  14. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In reality, Pac doesn't need to do the drug test that is not required by the commission. Not especially since such drug test is apparently being only used by a supposed rival to duck him. Pac, after all has never failed any test given to him by any commission.
     
  15. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I think the weight issue Oscar hurt Pacquiao more than Oscar. I don't have a problem with fighting oscar because that's a smart business move, but I don't think the win should be glorified or anything.