Freddie Roach and Pacman demanding equal $$ and same day weigh in from GBP!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack Presscot, Jul 31, 2008.


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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Sugar was on illegal supplements in the rematch.
     
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  2. Imperial1

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    2 mil for Oscar s a drop in the bucket I bet that check is already written out Oscar will come in around 150 ..
     
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  3. psychopath

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  4. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    How you spin this to make Golden Boy the unreasonable side is ****ing beyond me :patsch Pac wants purse parity with Oscar??? :patsch :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Get--The ****----Out of here!!!! And same day weigh in?? When was the last time Oscar even made 147 for a weigh in the day before a fight? This is Pac squirming or it's early on negotiation tactics. It's simple Negotiating 101, you'd understand if Kaygb let you actually handle the money once in a while...but when men enter into a negotiation a very common and quite simple tactic is to make demands you know you are going to back down on. This way during the process, it APPEARS that you are giving up a little to get a little but in reality you are only giving up **** you never really wanted in the first place. This is why you hear Oscar always saying "i won't fight a puerto rican" ..."I wont fight a mexican" blah blah blah, its bull****. But it does help when he sits down with some Puerto rican chump and he already has that to give up.

    Ring Ring...Class is over son!
     
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  5. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    Team PAC don't need to out price their way out... They could just say "oscar is too big for manny" people will understand...
     
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  6. Marc

    Marc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Same day weigh-in. :lol:

    750 g's per pound penalty.:rofl

    Asking for purse-parity.:!: :patsch


    If this isn't trying to opt out of the fight, then I don't know what it is.
     
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  7. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I knew it was all bull**** from Pacquiao and Roach. :nut
     
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  8. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    pac is scared that he's going to get his ass kicked.
     
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  9. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    it's a rule in every negotiation. you should begin with the highest possible demands so that by the time you and the other party meets at a consensus at the middle, the result won't be so unfair for you.
     
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  10. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that's great news. i hope this fight does not happen
     
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  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    1. Roach opened his mouth and stated that Manny Pac can beat Oscar Delahoya, using speed and angles and such as reasons. Now he is coming back with these demands?

    2. I never actually believed this fight would be made anyway. It could very well be just bull**** publicity and negotiating on the part of GBP.

    3. Oscar would murder Manny regardless of the weight...Manny isn't hard to hit at all. He doesn't have Floyds style which would allow him to move way up in weight and beat a boxer/puncher with the handspeed and power of delahoya.
     
    BewareofDawg, Aug 1, 2008
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  12. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    this is good news, looks like the fight wouldn't be happening.

    one of the biggest reasons is the 50/50 sharing, lol:lol: as if oscar would want that, ppv sales, ticket sales, plus purse 50/50? LOL oscar would be out of his mind to accept that.

    Plus the weigh in penalty and the same day weigh in proposal..

    lets face it..fishnets can't make 147 no more and it was evident already with his fight with forbes since the fight was supposed to be originally at 147. The fight was instead 150+ and thats like giving team pac a guaranteed extra million of dollars:lol:

    all this talks are all hype and publicity, its a good way to increase popularity with all the talk and hype about this fight. Same day weigh in? haha..another ploy just to have the odds against oscar since he'll be so dehydrated if he ever makes 147.
     
    CJLightweight, Aug 1, 2008
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  13. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ....Ring Ring, Class is back in session Hito.....Negotiating 101 is correct. OScar has been learning since 1999 that he is NOT in the driver's seat as far as negotiating, and in all reality, calls no shots. Tito Trinidad, Papa Trinidad and Don "Only In America" King told his ass where to go and how fast in the Press Conference following Oscar's first loss back in 1999.....Oscar was told to his face that the rematch would happen, as soon as the numbers were reversed, and to this day, Oscar is still "The Golden Chicken of Boxing" for failing to avenge that loss for EastLOS..... . So did Gary Shaw and Sugar and Jack Mosley. "Purse Parity, or you can live with your memories of the losses"...and so did Floyd Jr. who trumped DLH in the ring, and out of it.

    Oscar is learning, and is still learning, that with certain opposition, he is not in the driver's seat on the negotiating table. Freddie Roach is in Manny's corner, and it was his brainchild that called for the 147 same day weigh in. I noticed that the concept has made you about as nervous as it made Oscar. And for good reason. Oscar, being the spineless transvestite that he is, was hoping to rehydrate between Friday at 2pm, and Saturday at 9pm, to nearly a Supermiddleweight, and figured that his size and power advantage would lead him to a KO victory over the P4P Champion, so that he could claim on the post fight interview that he "did it" ect, ad nauseum. NOW with this demand, Oscar cannot rehydrate much, and has to face a Manny Pac who is 145, while he himself resembles Paris Hilton after a night of vomiting and diurhetics to make herself fit into a size 4 dress for the premiere of a new Vegas Nightclub. He is going to be weak. About as weak as Relentless' new avatar featuring he and you and Mundo and ssabripo raising that flag.
     
    Jack Presscot, Aug 1, 2008
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  14. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Except when dealing with OScar. Then you stick to your guns, and tell him and his promotional company to "go **** themselves"
     
    Jack Presscot, Aug 1, 2008
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  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    You're right Shane Mosley wouldn't agree to the terms Oscar set....AND THE FIGHT WASN'T MADE. Instead he went on to fight Winky Wright for like 1/2 what he woulda made against Oscar (if even that) and lose twice...Oscar went on to eventually fight a mega fight with Bernard. Who's in the driver seat???? :think The point is Oscar is gonna get a mega fight regardless of who it is, and that is more that can be said about anybody else. He is gonna make 8 figures in this fight in December....Fact. Manny Pac can make 8 figures if he fights Oscar in December, but he wont make it if he fights anyone else. So who is in the driver seat again? Class is out kiddo....come back when you smart'n up :good
     
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