Freddie Roach Denies A Pre-Fight Mosley Drug Test

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mr.Opal, Dec 21, 2010.


  1. Mr.Opal

    Mr.Opal Member Full Member

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    I chalk this up as a victory for boxing fans (excluding die hard pacfans who defend Manny & Roach no matter what).

    Here's what he is reported to have said:

    "That's a lie. I never said that. We turned that [drug testing] down once ourselves, so I would have to be a hypocrite to have said that," said Roach.

    "So some Filipino writer has written that I had said that, but that's not true," said Roach. "So I never said that. The thing is that I think that we're taking the fight that would bring the most money to the table, and that's what the deciding factor will be."

    When I created that thread on 12/19/2010 there were only about 2 or 3 links that would show up in the google search and all were linked from the Phillipine Star News. The next day there were dozens of links and right now there are well over 10 pages worth in google search.

    The source of the popularization of the story was right here on ESB forums (the actual thread showed up in google search also). I was sitting back the whole time waiting to see if a major American media source would report on what Freddie said and point out his hypocrisy that I pointed out in my thread. Aside from abc news (which was a little late), and later in the ESB article section, the ONLY people who were reporting on Freddie insisting on more testing were regular fans on other blogs spots and boxing sites.

    I personally think he's lying. I don't believe that FILIPINO reporter would have lied on Freddie Roach... the adored trainer of their hero. What would be his motive for doing that?

    I think word got back to Roach that what he said to the Philippine Star News went VIRAL on the internet and he felt compelled to respond even though, again, the major media sources were not making the story public, and if they did they did not point out the hypocrisy of it.

    It was only the fans on boxing sites and blogs mentioning the hypocrisy of it and THAT'S why Roach mentioned how it would make him a hypocrite for doing it. He was responding to the fans who were thoroughly calling out his hypocrisy.

    If you don't agree, and you believe Roach' claim that he never said it, fine. I don't believe him. Our voices will be heard as long as we make sound arguments based on evidence.
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    im still facepalming about this fight actually coming off:-(, teamp pac is stupid they should have faced berto first, now manny wel get a lot of criticism because of him fighting 2 cheaters who are past there best after another.
    Best solution would be marquez at 140 on that mexican holiday then winner of berto-mosley at 147 in the end of the year. nobody would complain about that I think and he would still make good cash. If he now faces mosley then at the end a older marquez at 147 its going to cost him a lot of fans.
     
  3. Mr.Opal

    Mr.Opal Member Full Member

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    They're complaining that Mosley is a bigger draw and Marquez wouldn't draw much. I highly doubt that. If Floyd can draw over a million without it being on the Mexican holliday then I have no doubt Manny & Marquez would also. I don't think Arum wants to deal with anybody associated with golden boy at all. I think that's one of the reasons Mosley left and why Floyd was exploring other options in Don King. Marquez makes the most sense.
     
  4. Jack Kollin

    Jack Kollin Say my name? Full Member

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    So if someone quoted Roach saying this thing and you like to bash it. You believe him. And if someone quoted Roach not saying this and you don't like it. You dont believe him? :tired
     
  5. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    This kinda reminds me of how *****s reacted towards the second negotiation. Some mother****ers actually believe there really was no second negotiation that happened and Arum and Greenberg are liars.

    Same move everytime.

    :lol:
     
  6. Mr.Opal

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    I believe both articles. I believe Roach said what he was reported to have said to the Philipine Star News and I think he turned around later and denied saying it. What I don't believe is his claim that the Filipino reporter lied on Roach and wrote false statements that were not actually said.
     
  7. Mr.Opal

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    Just a ***** thing according to you. But the scene of boxing also wrote an article on the same thing.

    http://fighthype.com/pages/content8002.html
     
  8. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there was nothing on the article that he said of "additional testing". your point is nothing but your very own interpretation and very far from being a fact.
     
  9. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Definitely, Also its very short term thinking, lets say pac destroys mosley, which is likely. you will have about 1 mil ppv, casual fans will be dissapointed label him a cherrypicker and wont tune in for the next fans, boxing fans are already dissapointed, his legacy suffers a blow and he gets zero credit for it.
    If you instead take berto and do 800k ppv you wil gain more fans byd efeating undefeated beltholders and boxingfans would like it, it helps his legacy and the fight after that will do even more money.
    If he fights marquez I think it will top mosley in ppv numbers especially on that holiday. Marquez is also the most deserving candidate.
    Plus another thing, tehr e is a good chance fans will call bob arums bull**** and dont watch the fight, then the fight will do relatively bad in ppv numbers which gives you another future roadblock for pac vs mayweather. Pac vs mosley is lose-lose in almost all situations.
     
  10. Mr.Opal

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    The article mentioned that a test would take place prior to the fight. Pre-fight testing is additional testing, as the commission only conducts post-fight testing.

    p.s. I bet you wont understand that
     
  11. VecArrow

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    doesn't say additional so its not additional!!!!
    :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
    checkmate.
     
  12. Mr.Opal

    Mr.Opal Member Full Member

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    True.. but as Arum said, they're all about the money. They should fight Marquez next and let Mosley fight Berto. Aside from Marquez I don't think anything makes sense other than Mayweather.
     
  13. nuges

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    Being on a mexican holiday doesnt mean that much for ppv buys on marquez's side. The majority of mexicans watch it for free, and in mexico it's free to watch as well. But still, I hope that the marquez fight happens..much rather see that than mosley.
     
  14. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Forget about mosley, pacquiao should fight a young undefeated champ in berto.
     
  15. Jack Kollin

    Jack Kollin Say my name? Full Member

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    You are stupid if you believe two contradicting article at the same time.
    One article quoted freddy saying blabla and another one quoted freddy did not say anything. Only one of them can be true as far as I know.

    By the way, are you going to commit suicide if it comes out the first article was a lie?

    P.S. **** Pac for choosing Mosley if he does