Freddie Roach Denies A Pre-Fight Mosley Drug Test

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mr.Opal, Dec 21, 2010.


  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    still mosley is the better fighter and has sold more against the common opponent, dont be mad at me because shane mosley would beat marquez's burrito eating ass back to argentina.
     
  2. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone with sense knew that Roach won't be requesting any tests on Mosley. Pac ain't taking no random test either, no matter what he says. Here was an opportunity, but they ran around it again. :patsch Suspicious clowns.
     
  3. Aztecas

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    Roach has lied and contradicted:nut himself many times, no one should listen to what he says.
     
  4. IsaL

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    You'd fail economics easily.

    You actually think you can predict which opponentwould generate more buys based on 1 fight against 1 common opponent? No. That is foolish.

    You think after Mayweather's masterful boxing performance against JMM, his stock with increase, hence the reason for the additional 400K buys with Mosley?

    If you knew anything about boxing, you'd know Mosley can't draw **** to flies. It's always his opponent who sells the fight in his PPVs. Maybe the same can be said about Marquez, but it is obvious Marquez has a bigger fan base than Mosley, and would sell a fight with Pacquiao far easier.
     
  5. Relentless

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    what does knowing about boxing have to do with economics pedro?
     
  6. divac

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    If Roach's demands were true, why would it stop the Pac-Mosley fight from happening?????
     
  7. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Uliuli is more knowledgeable than Arum when it comes to promoting a fight.:rofl
     
  8. pablogad

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    You have to be "dramatic" to post such an empty, pointless, statement. Actually Floyd comes out looking pretty good from where I'm sitting in relation to more stringent testing of fighters. The Commission's statement posted above fully supports Floyd's position.
     
  9. johnnydrama

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    Get a grip and relax pab......ESB and the posts are full of empty and pointless statments. But usually it's from other posters.

    Look.....no matter how hard you try to warp reality and perception to make it seem as though Floyd is "looking pretty good"....it's a losing battle. Floyd has done so much damage to his rep, life and career he doesn't know which ways up and which ways down.

    Had Floyd seriously been looking to clean up the sport MAYBE he'd have a leg to stand on...but his whole bit about "wanting to clean up the sport of boxing" gimmick was exposed as a clever way to avoid fighting PAC. Majority rules and the vast majority are pulling Floyd's card. They say he's a coward, or scared. I can't blame those who think that b/c Floyd has acted that way when it comes to Manny.

    There's no one claiming more stringent tests aren't good for boxing....everyone knows it is. But don't be fooled by Floyd's act....he used the tests to somehow support the unfounded and baseless accusations about Manny doping. It worked out well for a little while but all lies and un-truths end up exposed.

    Case in point....this topic we are discussing right here.
     
  10. pablogad

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    Great Rebuttal! But you're still looking at this issue solely from a pro Pac point of view.

    We can all take a purported fact from the well documented contract negotiations to present our preferred fighter in a good light. But the proof is ultimately in the pudding - or at least the ingredients/facts it contains (excuse the pun).

    My (pudding) mixture of facts is simply this:

    1. Floyd asked Pac to submit to random blood tests and later conceded (in first fight negotiations) that there could be a 14 day cutoff, which was firmly rejected

    2. Roach/Pac have consistently berated Floyd for suggesting that Pac submit to testing over and above what the commission mandates

    3. It is purported that Roach/Pac have requested that Mosely take an additional test(s) over and above that mandated by the commission.

    Now that tastes like double-standards!! Let not your admiration or dislike of a fighter obscure you from savoring the truth.

    Yeah Floyd's a dick but I'm more concerned with his fighting acumen, which IMO is second to none. Pac's a powerful, exciting and accomplished fighter and presents as a very nice guy. But you know what.... it all still tastes like double standards.


    Have a good christmas
     
  11. Vitor Belfort

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    Opal spreading false rumors:rofl
     
  12. johnnydrama

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    I admit I am biased in favor of PAC in this situation but it's not b/c I hate Floyd or I'm a *******. It's this specific situation that has left a bad taste in my mouth. And for me Floyd is to blame in more than one way. I actually am a HUGE Floyd fan...Maybe not so much outside of the ring but in it he's "ART". I appreciate his dedication to his craft and his skills and talent inside the ropes.

    Sure....PAC can be blamed as well for NOT accepting the blood testing demands right away or negotiating on the cut off date. But if you really take the entire sitaution in to the proper perspective you'll see that Manny was blind sided with potentially very damaging accusations that caused him to be on defense.

    Based on how the demands came about and where they stemmed from PAC had the right to refuse or negotiate Floyds requirment for PAC to undergo USADA testing measures.

    Floyd played his cards well b/c everyone likes truthful, honest and integirty in high profile people. And Floyd knew that....but again...his intentions were never to clean up the sport that is evident bc he's done absolutley NOTHING to solidify the movement he started.

    Regarding the Roach comments that he alledegdly wanted Shane to test have been found inaccurate and False. Roach cleared that up. But had the comments been legit then yea....definitley it would be seen as hypocritical.

    I don't doubt that there are some double standards when it comes to PAC....there are double standards when it comes to Floyd. But the bottom line is when you are that good and you are considered the "MAN" of your realm....you get perks or "benies" based on your status.

    Merry Christmas bro and I appreciate your response. You make great points even though we disagree. :good
     
  13. IsaL

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    I know I shouldn't be hard on you because it isn't your fault your missing a few chromosomes, but **** it.

    You're dumbass doesn't even know that in the height of Mosley's career he couldn't even draw flies to ****.

    So to answer your question you ****ing stan, yes knowing your boxing helps out understanding boxing economics, it's just common sense it would, but common sense is something you lack. Don't worry, you're not a lone, theres a bunch of *******s just like you. ;)