Freddie Roach explains his catchweights strategy

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I was looking at this interview yesterday after the Oscar De La Hoya fight and I can't believe that people haven' called team Pacquiao out for cherry picking before. Freddie explains multiple times in this video on who they want to fight and why they choose to fight certain fighters.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpL6n0F3bX4

    First Freddie breaks down the Oscar fight and then he explains later in the video why they choose him in the first place. He says that they chose Oscar because his age and he didn't do good in his late few performances. I understand them taking it because of the revenue though, so I'm not trippin too much.

    He also says they would like the Mayweather fight(when he was retired), but they do claim they want to fight the best, but then he goes on to say that they want to fight Mayweather at a catchweight below 147 because they want to take a little something from Floyd at 6:20.

    Then the Margarito fight is brought up around 6:40. Remember this was just after Margarito/Cotto and before Margarito/Mosley. Freddie said he that he doesn't want the fight, but it depends on how he looks against Mosley(Mosley KHTFO so they take it a year later). He states that Margarito is a big 147 pounder in his PRIME and that's not a good fight for them at the time. He also states that if Margarito wants to fight at 143 or 144 then they'll fight him

    Now they ask about Miguel Cotto (after the Margarito fight) and Freddie jumps to it and seems excited about it.

    After the Mosley fight is happened, it seems more people are catching on to what their camp has been doing. They always use these catchweights to their benefit and it's the same thing with Marquez as well now.
     
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  2. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess Marquez also a cherry picker for wanting a 144 catchweight against Mayweather, and wanting Pac to fight only at 140.
     
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  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Marquez was coming up from 135. Pacquiao had just fought at 147 the fight before. Matter fact they wanted Mosley at 143 because he was too "good" so I guess it's the same concept with Floyd
     
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  4. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Dude I understand you are a Manny fan but be a boxing fan first or did you recently start watching boxing? The video is actual proof and it came right out of Freddie's mouth.
     
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  5. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    What a sorry piece of shot u turned out to be. Oh and merry christmas.
     
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  6. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpxtKlVQqCU[/ame]
     
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  7. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DLH was a fight Pac couldn't pass up and he weighed only 142. His next fight against Hatton he was 138, very much still closer to a lightweight than a welterweight. They were still testing the waters at welter. It's not uncommon for smaller fighters going up in weight to seek to level the playing field against bigger opponents, especially if you were in Pac's position being the money man. After Cotto, Pac's fought at or above the welter limit, and Mosley will be at 147-150 too.
     
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  8. FORMIDABLE

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    Freddie is Pac's trainer. It's his job to look out for Pac's best interests and trying to get him the best chance at winning. But guess what, Top Rank makes the fights, not Freddie. He also said he wanted Martinez at 147 and Arum blew that off as being an idiotic idea.
     
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  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Ive been calling them out for it for nearly 2 years, and ive not been the only one

    Good to see the pennies finally dropped for mass consensus

    :good
     
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  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    This video is solid. There really is no way to defend Team Pac on any of the subjects this video covers. Keep this one and post it any time you need to shut someone up.

    So in this video, Roach even states that he and Pacquiao agree that Mayweather is the best out there (around 5:35-5:45 ish).
     
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  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Check this one out as well.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOz98xG82Ok[/ame]
    :hammertime
     
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  12. rocky538

    rocky538 Lineal Champion Full Member

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    **** freddie the joke coach roach
     
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  13. floyd_g.o.a.t

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  14. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The best non-fighter that throws the most perfect punches against people that cannot push him?ROFL Jr never would or will take on people at there peak. How can you keep trying to defend the little cockroach.
     
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  15. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    :good

    Roach does not and has never choosen/negotiated who Pac should fight.
     
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