Freddie Roach: "I want the (Mayweather) fight at 145"

This is a very good point.

To properly understand Floyd's weight games, you have to recall both the

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and the

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fights. In both instances, PBF used a higher weight to disadvantage his opponent. That is, it was not so much that he could not make a lower weight, but he felt that it would be more disadvantageous to his opponent if he did not do so.

In other words, if Floyd wanted to make 140 against Hatton, he could have. But after he watched Hatton suck against

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at 147, Floyd realized it would be better for him to have Hatton move up from 140. And that's what he did, and we saw the result. Moving up put Hatton at a disadvantage, and Floyd exploited that.

For JMM, Floyd apparently never intended to come into the weigh-in at 144 lbs. And he didn't. He simply decided he would come in at 146, pay the extra money and put JMM at a greater size disadvantage come fight night. The result was the

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-type farce the world witnessed.

So, now we are supposed to believe, via the

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, that a guy who weighed 146 lbs for his last fight can't make 145 lbs -- just one pound less -- for his next fight?

If that doesn't make any logical sense to you, it shouldn't. It's not about logic for Floyd, it's about trying to put Manny -- a guy who has to eat and strength train like crazy to get to the low 140's -- at the greatest disadvantage possible, just like he did with JMM and Hatton.

There is a difference this time, however. And it is one of leverage. If the

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come back for Pac-Cotto and they exceed those of JMM-PBF, then Pac will be holding the negotiating cards. We should know that in the next two days or so, I think.

As other posters have said, Pac can either choose to drop his WW strap or simply say the fight is for one of his

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. There is no logistical reason the fight has to be held at welterweight or be for a welterweight title. Floyd has no belt, only Manny does. So that's not an issue.

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has whined before when I brought up the massive weight-drain which

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went through prior to his bout with

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. The facts are simple: It was Adamek's final fight at LHW, and in his very next match, just 4 months later, he weighed 23 lbs more than he did for Dawson.

Anyone think that if Floyd and Manny fight soon at 145 lbs that Floyd will be fighting at

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in his next bout, four months later?

Me either.

And that's your problem, BigReg -- and all the rest of the Joy Boyz -- your past statements damn you.

If you don't think Adamek has any right to complain about cutting huge weight for Dawson, surely you don't think Floyd can be upset if he has to cut ONE DAMN POUND from his last fight. Right? Right? I mean, I'm sure going from 146 to 145 is like moving a mountain, but it's just ONE DAMN POUND. Can't be too hard.

Pac doesn't need Floyd, silly threads like BigReg's

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aside. He doesn't need anyone. If he wants to fight

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people will watch. He's arrived. He's a star now, and the PPV figures appear set to reflect that. It's his world now, and even Floyd is just a squirrel trying to get a nut.

This being the case, if Pac wants the fight at 145 he's likely to get it at 145. PBF has nowhere to go. We all know he's not fighting

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. Sure, he could go fight a

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or rematch Hatton, but no one cares. He wouldn't be fighting the P4P king, the guy whom Floyd has targeted the entire time, the smaller guy Floyd wants to beat so he can shortcut back to the

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. The guy who stole his thunder, and whose fighting style fans like far more than his own.

This is the only fight for Floyd. All of his roads lead to Pac. And if he waits to take the fight, he only gets older. So does Pac, but Pac is 2 years younger. So guess who it hurts more?

I have no idea if Pac cares about making the fight at 145. He might -- or his camp might -- only care about getting a better purse split or a few more million guaranteed from Team Mayweather.

Whatever it is he wants, though, Pac is likely to get in this situation. Can Pac make more money with Floyd than fighting someone else? Yes. Does he "need" Floyd? No. And that's a different scenario than the one Floyd is facing as regards Pac. If Floyd wants to regain his status as the #1 P4P fighter, he has to face Pac. Until and unless that happens, Pac will retain that status and is very likely to remain as the top draw in the sport, pending the return of the

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fight PPV numbers.

 

Actually it's not. But I'm curious who this is -- they're well-informed and can articulate their point well. They also seem to know boxing very well. Sounds like an insider. It's not me, I can tell you that.

 

Staring to feel the fear, eh Joy Boy?

Once that welterweight title is set aside, the Floyd Fans are adrift without a life preserver.

Leverage is a beautiful thing...when you have it. When you don't, not so much. :rasta