Freddie Roach: "I want the (Mayweather) fight at 145"

Really I think this is a 50/50 fight and should be 147. You Floyd fans have made excuses for years that he doesn't need to face a Williams or Margarito type fighter cause he's a small welterweight. His fans have argued for years Floyd could easily make 140. Now he potentially faces a real small welterweight(third one in a row, add Mitchell to that and you've got a hell of a welter resume) and you guys say how dare Pac.

 

Did anyone call for any welterweight or above to fight Floyd Mayweather at a catchweight?

 

again why are you talking bout leverage? its non of our BI our job is to demand the best fight. The best fight is at 147. If pac wins he wins beating Floyd at his best.

people are talking bout numbers as if JMM could outsell cotto. what diffrence do it make?

Make the fight stop acting like you all know the fight game and business tactics cuz if you did youd be in the mix somewhere and not here. cut the crap and just be a fan and demand the fight happens

again UFC fans arnt doing this because the owner is nothing like you Fans Dana white is a True Fan of his sport. he makes the best fights happen. You guys talking bout money and Business tactics which none of you have the least bit of knowledge of either

 

Paul, you're way off here. Dawson and Adamek were both LHWs when they fought. Complaining that Adamek was drained when he was clearly still strong at the end of the fight is ridiculous. And the catchweight isn't about Floyd being drained. Floyd would never allow himself to be drained. The problem is that it's silly and pointless to ask for a catchweight in this situation. Manny is a WW champ, he has fought twice at WW and looked as good as ever. Not only that, but Roach has said several times that he has no problem with Manny fighting Mayweather at 147. Pac said he can fight at 147. They walk around at about the same weight. Please tell me why in the hell a catchweight is needed? Why should we respect any publication that ranks Pacquiao as a Welter if he's supposedly not big enough to fight at Welter?

Why does my thread have to be silly? I never claimed Pac needed anyone. However, he needs if he wants to get his biggest payday(ditto for Floyd). It's funny that you call me silly yet you're advocating a WW champ fighting another WW(who is about the same size as him) at a catchweight. It doesn't matter though, because there will be no catchweight. You may think Floyd is just a squirrel trying to get a nut, but there's not another fight anywhere near as big as this fight for Pac. If you think otherwise, you're crazy.

 

needs to be at 147.. thats the only view i have in floyds favour

now lets get it on

 

Let me make sure I understand this. In your world, you actually expected that Floyd Mayweather would, coming off weighing 151 lbs for the DLH fight, drop down back past the Welterweight division where he had spent the past 20 months, to make a fight at 140.

This in spite of the fact that almost all the money fights were at WW.

You really believe that? Seriously?

Maybe I missed something. Could you please provide some names of other fighters who did such a thing and who were not totally financially desparate at the time.

 

Well Mosley, Williams, Hop and Pac have all dropped back down in weight in the past couple years, so try again.

 

well its not that. Its just that when he couldnt make weight for the JMM fight,its obvious floyds were he belongs now. I think the fight should be made at 147 I dont want Floyd to be at a Disadvantage which makes the fight easier for pac. I dont think pac, will be at a Disadvantage he came in at 149 against Hatton and sent him to hell pac. Extra Power.Pac is good at 147 in my opinion. I want both to come in there Greatself.Floyd is good at 147 let them meet with neither advantages. and make a great fight. it just isnt any fun when somebody wins because of disadvantages because you cant see the best out of them both. I never like catchweights. we need to see the Best out of Both.

I didnt care to see mayweather margo because I never tho he was anygood. I like Baldo better because of the Judah fight. I was all for a williams fight against floyd after williams beat Margo because of his output and showed margo was a ****ing bum. then he beat cotto. Then I wished Floyd never retired. but I wasnt on this forum then so i dont know what was said

 

anybody seen Bazooka?

 

Thats debatable.

The question is not if PBF can make 145lbs, it is why should he? How can you think its ok for a champion in any division to refuse to defend at that division's weight limit? Why even have divisions? :huh

Moreover, For as onesided as the Cotto fight was, there is still doubts as to wether he was affected by having to make weight. Sure you can say that the fight plays out like that at any weight but we will never know. If Pac is the better WW let him prove it by defending his belt at the WW limit.

 

I think Pac is a natural jr welter at this point. He simply has the style and power that carries to welter. This is really more a testament to his skill because he would definitely be a more effective fighter fighting guys at 140, where his power would be much greater. It doesn't matter to me though because if he wants the big fights all the names are at welter, so take the fight at 147.

I always thought Marg had the ability to cut off the ring, size and such a high punch output to hurt Floyd. He was the longest reigning welter champ at the time, and there wasd call for the fight. The Williams fight was damn close but to me a clear 7-5 rounds for Williams. If anyone was punished in that fight it was Williams when Marg came on late. If only Willy and his team would have given Marg the immediate rematch he asked for,we would've known if Marg could make adjustmants or if Williams was simply better.

 

he said Pass the wieght. Mosley came back to welter so did williams but never pass.

 

Think he had a time off bet.

 

theres already too many weight classes, catchweights r ridiculous. WW is 147, if Pac cant fighting at 147 then he needs to go back to 140 and this is coming from a Pac fan. This is why the old fighters were great, they fought at the weight limits.

 

]*sigh*

simple logic Pac is a welterweight title holder now. Floyd is a welterweight. Fight @ 147 4 the belt and call it a day good night.

If he can fight Delahoya and beat him @ 147 and every1 said he can beat the bigger man etc. Why not beat floyd @ 147, dont leave the xcuse of it was b/c he was weight drained or w/e. If Pac doesnt want 2 go up all the way 2 147 he can weigh in @ 145 if he wants.

I dont think Floyd can make 145, he trained hard for the Marquez fight and still was 2 pounds over.

Fight @ 147 split the difference and get it on, enough of this catchweight bs