Freddie Roach is one of the most overrated trainer of recent years

He is over hyped as a trainer, but you can't take away what he has achieved with some fighters (mainly Pac) and he has also brought Khan on big time.

 

Pacquiao has had his share of careful-matchmaking, but few could do what he did in many of those fights regardless of the condition they were in.

It's impossible for a fighter to constantly find young (but not green) accomplished (but not shot) undefeated (but not untested) fighters around his division every time out.

Roach's technical guidance allowed Pacquiao to accomplish things at weights that you'd be hard to find any other former featherweight competing at.

Chavez Jr. is still lackluster and untested, but Roach is making him perform better each time out. Khan has developed greatly; still young and lacking certain fundamentals, but at the top of his division and has climbed there impressively. Linares put on a great display against DeMarco before he was cut, and then showed great heart on top of it. DLH, despite losing, made a competitive fight against Mayweather despite being past his best. Roach's credentials, especially as an offensive specialist, are clearly there and have made a salient presence in the sport.

 

Killer sparring over at Fred's gym too.

 

you say he is very good but then say he is overrated? I do not think most see him as anything but a "very good" tainer - maybe one of the best right now.

 

Pac won belts before the lil Roach. And if Pac is smart he'll be looking to Roberto Garcia soon anyway!

 

I think I save this quote and paste it every time I ran into a hater.

 

Who did Manny Steward train like that ?

Only tommy hearns- and its known Steward used to just show up for the media days as he was off getting multiple facial surgeries and slimmed down MJ style nose jobs- the mans a fraud !

What you foolishly fail to realise is that when a train becomes great- only top ranked champs go to them

its a good thing you idiot.

What top notch highly paid trainer is gonna sit around the amatuer fights for no money ?

Roach trainer under Eddie Futch and is emulating his success.

 

If I was starting out as a serious Boxer and had the choice, I'd get my fundamentals from somewhere else, Nazzim Richardson (He learned from the great Bouie Fischer) or Manny Steward, even Teddy Atlas, who I actually think would click well with me. Old school trainers who know old school tricks and techniques.

Freddie Roach, where as he worked under Eddie Futch, has his own style of training, he doesn't teach (to my knowledge) the subtle things someone like Richardson would show you, even Floyd Mayweather Sr.

I'd get my fundamentals from one of those I mentioned, and maybe see Roach for exposure and the finishing touches.

 

Yes sir, Nacho Berestain too:good Though I'd need a translator

 

Roach reached his peak as a trainer in the middle of Pacs career. Thats when a lot of good prospects started comming his way, however he is not that good at training multible fighters and it shows. Lee had to leave, Quillian is not getting the3 attention he needs, Beltran just lost, Khan lost, and Lanares got stopped. Thats not good.

 

he didn't fight the way he teaches you knacker.