Freddie Roach knows pacquiao chances are slim to beat Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Samski313, Jan 21, 2010.


  1. time

    time Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its true, floyd would probably outbox pac without too much problems, as long as he can avoid that hard left and floyd is a master at not getting hit cleanly, it probably would have been a very long night for pac imo
     
  2. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    no he don't know ****. just read the rules and you'll be fine
     
  3. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Im bored with all of this now. He needs to focus on Clottey now.
     
  4. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather Sr. was saying this stuff before the Cotto fight. Comparing Cotto and Mayweather would be foolish, because they are completely different fighters. Pacquiao ran a smear campaign on himself by refusing random blood testing while using excuses that made no sense. Maybe they honestly believe Pacquiao might be on some type of PEDs. Even if I knew I would win, I would still prefer to fight a clean fighter rather than risking my life or health because my opponent was cheating.
     
  5. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacquiao has had trouble with boxers in his career and Floyd is the ultimate boxer.
     
  6. IPitydaFo0l

    IPitydaFo0l ATG in the making Full Member

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    Yeah probably after Manny smoked the fighter he was training in Hatton. Remember? When Sr had the nerve to call him amateurish?

    So in 14 rounds he's an amateur then now he's a PED's user? Does that make any sense to you whatsoever? That is straight up crackhead logic if I ever saw it.

    I'm not comparing Cotto to PBF stylistically so stop acting like you know whats up here. My concern with Pac going against these bigger guys was whether or not he could at least take their shots. That was answered in his fight vs Cotto. Yes it'll still be a tough fight, but his chances have definitely improved compared to pre-Cotto.
     
  7. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ITs what i have been saying all along. Roach and Arum wont let Pac take this fight until he is ready to retire and does not have much to lose.
    Right now Pac has created too much momentum and it would derail all of that if PBF schooled him ala JMM which i think he will and actually possibly stop him.

    Mark my words. This fight wont happen unless its Pacs last fight.
     
  8. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    well, there is no doubt pac and roach know that mayweather will be the most diffcult opponent of his career. the best defensive fighter, the most accurate counter puncher in the game. but they will still be confident once they actually meet in the ring. dont know how far the confidence will take them however.
     
  9. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    Roach and Manny did not want the fight...if they did, they damn sure didn't want it in March.
     
  10. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It does make sense. How many fighters have moved up several weight classes and bullied and physically dominated there much bigger opponents? Not losing any speed or power while moving up several classes is basically impossible. How many other fighters have done what Manny has done with these kinds of results? The guy couldn't take out worn out Oscar Larios who was also moving up 2 weight classes, but he could take out Hatton and Cotto with ease?

    The Cotto fight has nothing to do with Mayweather. Even though you say that you're not comparing them stylistically, you actually are. Mayweather beats his opponents with movement, intelligence,speed, and defense, not power. Cotto relies on power, body punching, a good jab, and very little defense. Floyd doesn't try to knock fighters out, so that's a non-issue to begin with.
     
  11. SuperFloyd100

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    i bet the *******s are hurting after reading this
     
  12. flem1

    flem1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In short you believe Pac is a cheater.

    Why not acknowledge that this guy has talent and is a very good fighter instead of believing the logic of a crackhead?
     
  13. IPitydaFo0l

    IPitydaFo0l ATG in the making Full Member

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    Speed is something Manny's always had. The results of his recent fights have led you to believe that he's some KO artist when in reality his skillset is what has really taken off. The man has just gotten that much better. Each and every KD or KO was a result of precision punching from an unexpected place and the recipient never saw them coming in. These shots were picture perfect, plain and simple. Besides, PBF himself has climbed several divisions and he's pretty much retained his speed as well right?

    Let me simplify it for you. In my eyes Manny's punch resistance above featherweight was still questionable prior to the Cotto fight. Diaz, Hoya, and Hatton barely touched him so at that point, I still had my doubts. So stop insisting I'm comparing PBF and Cotto when clearly I'm not.
     
  14. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I don't know exactly but it was at the very beginning of negotiations and talk for this fight to happen.
     
  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    It isn't really "unprecedented" though, yeah "olympic style" is unprecedented but top fighters requiring opponents to undergo "special testing" is not unprecedented. Tyson did it with Holyfield. The truth is that PED's and Masking agents is a BUSINESS and is CONSTANTLY evolving, they have to to make money but the testing for it in boxing has not evolved.

    It really is like the DEA/FBI still trying to fight the Drug War without up to date technology or weapons.