Freddie Roach On Pacquiao's Future.

Thats why I asked where he hasn't been. Please tell. This all comes back too, if it isn't asked for by the commission it doesn't matter. But please enlighten us as to when.

 

Fighting insurgents is not the same as fighting Mayweather....

 

I agree with you on the highlighted bit. Unfortunately for Pac, all the stuff that the members of his team said will be looked at as coming from him.

I still think that him dropping the date down to 24 days is a concession on his part to try and make the fight happen. I guess we'll look at this on different angles so we'll just have to agree to disagree since we are both speculating anyway

Sorry dude, I am not an authority on thrash talking. I kinda not do that

 

If the phlebotomist misses a vein, you'll be bleeing in your arm. My wife just gave blood for her physical, it's been over a week and she's still bruised up.

Friggen just ask any phlebotomist about how people react and and what can happen from giving blood.

 

You asked where he hasn't been consistent? Why don't you hit the damn archives back to when the fight was announced, post Cotto.

He agreed to testing. Said no testing after the press conference. Said he is scared of needles while having a hep special on his chest. Said he was "was weakened" by giving blood. Then was busted on 24/7 giving blood happily under 30 days. Then he cancelled the fight with his people saying they never offered a 14 day cut off calling Team Mayweather liars. Then hours later saying they did offer a 14 day cut off, but the fight is still off. Huh? Why?

None of you *******s seem to have a long-term memory or logical reasoning skills. A clean fighter doesn't screw himself out of $20-40 million dollars against an opponent nobody would blame him for losing to then set up a fight for a fraction of the amount against a guy who lost to the guy you just beat over a test he KNOWS he can pass. Now if he is dirty? I would go that route.

 

Why do you still "think/believe" when the evidence is right in front of you? Don't take my word for it google it. He got caught saying not under 30 days when the 24/7 for Hatton showed him giving blood, though it WASN'T for drug testing.

Mayweather even threw him a bone by meeting halfway between 30 and zero at 14. Halfway is actually 12 because he was FORCED to go to 24 days.

Now if you want to say "I have BLIND faith in Manny." that is all fine and good. Just say that. Don't beat around the bush like you are a person who is analyzing the situation.

 

Thats just negotiation. He probably wanted to take it with the biggest gap possible but was willing to negotiate. When has he ever taken a test really close to the fight. On top of that why does he have to at all. As long as he satisfies the NSAC. Maybe he was willing to entertain the idea but enough was enough. Hess not in a position where he has to do anything. He can get other big fights. Same with Floyd hence stick t what the commission asks for

 

Mayweather's original stand was random blood testing anytime. When he proposed 14 days, you look at it as a concession made by Mayweather but you won't give credit to Pacquiao for dropping his demand from 30 to 24.

You lumped me with the other Pac fans. I'm new here so I guess we'll find out in the future if that is true.

 

Uhm Asafa powell far from smoked everyone. The winner of the 100m dash was clearly Usain Bolt, in fact he coasted for roughly the last 20% of he fight. Now do I believe that the testing affected him, yes at least psychologically. Do I believe it would have made enough difference such that he could win the race, hell no Usain Bolt is in a completely different league to most other sprinters. Now as for the fight between Pac and Mayweather it is completely different there is not this major discrepancy in talent the two are very close and any advantage could swing the fight one direction or the other.

 

He doesn't have to to crap but stay Philipino and die. He only has to test if he wants to fight for $20-40 million dollars. He doesn't want to.

He would rather take a meaningless garbage fight against a guy who lost to the guy he just destroyed for a fraction of the money.

He looks like a buffoon.

 

Once more Sir. Pacquio did not drop it. The NSAC made him drop it after the video evidence came out so he did.

No, I did not lump you in. Sorry if it came off as such. I am saying that there are too positions to take. The position of reasoning. What are the facts? The position of faith. Pac is my guy! Both can be valid. Without you stating and me not knowing the position that you have taken we are both spinning our wheels.

(The position of faith is a *******.)

 

Cant really be talking about fighting garbage if you're defending floyd. He is well known for that. Clottey is a descent fighter. I wanted a PAC/PBF fight too but if its not happening this option is not bad. Lets wait and see who Floyd fights next.

Maybe Floyd should have agreed to 20 days if he wanted to make $20 Million. As thats a extra thing he brought in.

 

Read up the chain. I ain't too sharp on TnF. :yep

They BOTH would be doing the testing. If Manny required equal testing I would say that was very reasonable.

Do you box? There is a huge discrepancy. You just can't see it.

 

yep. Hes had Parkinsons for a while now.

 

Jeez... A ****. Who was the garbage? The lineal WW champ? The guy who held the title before? Clottey is decent, but stylistically cake. You go from the real #1 P4P fighter to a guy who is known not to have pop, not be fast, fade in fights, not have a killer instinct, and do just enough to lose? You want me to call Pac a "warrior" for that crap? Please.

Here is a project. Make a list of Top Rank WW fighters. Then make a list of fighters "ducked" by Mayweather. Then compare... Same list! Arum is ruining the landscape not Mayweather.

FMJ will make that and more fighting the Mosely/Berto winner. Pac will finish his career fighting blah fights in the Top Rank stable.