Freddie Roach on RJJ-Steve Collins

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  1. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Freddie, great trainer, but he does talk some **** sometimes.
     
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  3. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    but he backs it up though. :deal
     
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  4. misticmonk

    misticmonk Active Member Full Member

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    Big Collins fan. Roy Jones was p4p king at the time and its hard to justify how Collins would have beat him but it was the fight we dared to dream.
     
    misticmonk, Nov 27, 2010
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  5. atberry

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    bump
     
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  6. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    His argument seems to be founded on the assertion that Reggie Johnson was "a southpaw Roy Jones".

    Absolutely bat-**** crazy.

    There's no way Collins would have beaten Roy - not a ****ing chance.
     
    Henke67, Nov 27, 2010
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  7. christo

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    While collins was teak tough, had good dig and was in all right a pretty
    complete fighter. We're talking about a prime roy jones who defied the norm. You HAVE to like RJJ over collins. Hell, i beleive a prime calzaghe beats a prime collins, and roy beats them both. Roy was unbeatable at
    168.
     
    christo, Nov 27, 2010
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  8. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    He could try and cheat like Danny Green did, and throw rabid punches.
     
    TerryESB, Nov 27, 2010
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  9. Flash Jab

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    Imagine how high Collins would've been rated if he'd beaten Jones Jr.
     
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  10. atberry

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ngNIvi3Rc[/ame]
    watch from 8:00 on




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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2r5m6uYxI[/ame]
    watch from 7:45 on for lovely countering by Collins
     
    atberry, Nov 27, 2010
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  11. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    He convinced me, Collins by K.O.
    Another Knockout loss for Roy.
    (Can you change BoxRec like wikipedia?)
     
    Hatesrats, Nov 27, 2010
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  12. christo

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    ahh, sarcasim 101.
     
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  13. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's some of the craziest **** said by Roach...:lol:

    Obviously anything can happen in boxing but Steve Collins didn't have anywhere near the necessary speed or reflexes to beat a young version of Roy Jones...:lol:

    ...and Reggie Johnson a Southpaw Roy Jones ???? :blood:secret:rofl

    Freddie's losing it...
     
    pasky2000, Nov 27, 2010
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  14. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    collins would of got beat, roach is loyal to his fighters and will back them but i cant see collins ko'ing jones, collins never had much one shot ko power and jones was not shot back then
     
    Mr Butt, Nov 27, 2010
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  15. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have to fancy Roy of course but Collins is very underrated and HAD pretty fast hands in addition to a decent jab, great stamina and work-rate, top punch resistance, enough power and supreme will to make him a match foe most any middle/super-middle but Jones was all wrong for him.
     
    mattdonnellon, Nov 27, 2010
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