Freddie roach says James Toney was most talented fighter he ever worked with

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  1. mellamomarcos

    mellamomarcos Active Member Full Member

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    Dang. Freddie's training alot of fighters also but I can see that. Toney would stand right in front of you and you could not hit him. Never realized I feel his full potential though he still would've lost to roy regardless. Roy was crazy scary back in the day.
     
  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Toney could have been so much more which considering what he achieved says a lot about the natural talent he possessed.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Toney was a incredible talent shame he didn't have the work ethic to back it up.
     
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  4. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    My birthday was Monday, now I finally get to go home and enjoy it with some Burger King. Here I come baby! Burger King! Burger King!"
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    James Toney was a brilliant fighter, I don't disagree, great defensive fighter, its a pity more slick American fighters don't seem to realize you can be aggressive and a responsible defender, or they don't have the chin or guts to even attempt it.
     
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  6. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I quoted his Burger King outburst because it always makes me smile when I see the clip.

    As for his talent, it was undoubted, he was an excellent fighter, a modern day fighter that would have succeeded in any era in my opinion.
     
  7. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I know personally that Toney would get one of those checks come back to either Grand Rapids or eastside Detroit and just lay up with hoes and drank and smoke non stop. He would have gave Mike Tyson a run for his money in the 90s. Toney is a legend but he knows he ****ed his best years up hanging with the GDs and talking **** instead of having his business straight.
    Manny Steward used to have a club on Gratiot Ave and he would be up in that ***** twisted. Thats why I give Floyd props as far as his boxing career and staying *clean as far as street drugs. Too many fighters fell off out in the streets with these tacky broads.
     
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  8. MUFA$A

    MUFA$A FEAR * THE * TANK Full Member

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    It would take a highly skilled fighter to get the best of Toney in his prime.

    He was that damn good.

    Roy nearly shut him out, but dont tell Toney that.

    In his own words " Ive never been knocked out or dominated "
     
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  9. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    Favorite all-time fighter, even with the baggage
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    People forget that Roach was a star trainer already before Pacquiao blew up, and in those days Toney was the shining light of his stable.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    In fact it took several years for me to stop thinking of him as "Toney's coach (who now happens to also now be Pac-Man's chief 2nd)", long after Lights Out had ceased to be relevant while Manny was all but the biggest name in the sport.

    They had a good, symbiotic working relationship. (if slightly dysfunctional)
     
  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Toney is an a-hole but he's a funny charismatic a-hole with skills that wasn't afraid of anyone. He could have been a PPV star if he had managed his career better.
     
  13. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    In terms of just raw talent

    Truth
     
  14. Bad News Brit

    Bad News Brit Active Member banned Full Member

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    Roach pretending Amir Khan doesn't exist. Shameful.
     
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  15. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No coincidence then that the shoulder roll thing contributed to three of the best around,such a shame I never even knew about him back in the day,seriously in the UK it was all about Eubank,Benn,Watson n Collins.