Freddie Roach Says Judges Sometimes Prefer Aggressive Fighters

Exactly sometimes judges just look at who is running, who is pressuring not just who landing the hard shots... the factor other things not just hard shots.

I though Williams won a close fight, because LARA was landing hard shots all while running backing up and gassing out the majority of the fight...but Williams was landing as well, not hard 1-2's but he was connecting and being the busier fighter and pressuring.. so those who scored it for lara it couldn't be a UD.... but that is just my opinion and others can disagree.

There are other factors not just who lands the harder shots...

I think in PAC Marquez.. they gave some rounds to PAC because he was the busier fighter even though Marquez was landing some huge counter shots..

It's all opinion that's why they had 3 judjes, and many fans had williams winning.

 

Its bull**** though, good clear punching should win rounds, allthough I agree that activity plays a role in some fights like pac vs jmm or calzaghe vs b-hop, lara got robbed because the judges were corrupt I dont think it was because they were incapable of scoring the rounds correctly.

 

He's right about judges being partial to ACTIVITY over effective offense...well...in a lot of cases. But I'm sure had he been really watching and scoring he'd have a different perspective. It was a robbery without question. Not the worst I've seen but it's up there for sure.

 

I know huh I thought JMM one too....except he wasn't gassing out, running, he was standing his ground countering with big huge counters that made PAC make funny faces.

COMPU BOX TOTALS... 172 MARQUEZ VS 157 PAC..... hmm and JMM hit more. Sounds familiar.

Power Punches Marquez Pacquiao Landed M130 P114

hmmmm WAIT what? Only some??lol

 

I agree with any result in that fight to be honest I had pac winning 114-113 but marquez winning a close fight or a draw would be fair as well.
Same with martinez vs paul williams 1, morales vs maidana, zbik vs chavez, cotto vs clottey and sturm vs macklin.

 

He's just trying to justify Pacman's 2 "wins" over Marquez.

 

Pacquiao may have two fights coming up where he is not going to land the cleanest more telling shots, the Marquez fight and possibly a Mayweather fight.

.......thus why Roach is laying the groundwork now to voice this bull**** that judges sometimes simply look at who the aggressor is.


Stop with this ****ing nonsense.
Randall "Tex" Cobb was the aggressor vs Larry Holmes but was getting the crap beat out of him.


Lara in his fight with Williams was clearly landing cleaner, harder, and by far the more effective blows.

.....and not only that, when Williams went on the offensive attempting to land his shots, the shots were falling well short of its target and he was being thrown off balance throughout the entire fight, causing Lara to consistently land that left hand of his that was just jolting Williams' head.

Thats just the thing about what Williams was being able to land. He was so off balance during his shot attempts that what was landing was'nt being consistently effective.
......so when you have a fighter throwing alot of punches as Williams was but not landing much of significance, there is absolutely no way to mistake to give him rounds.
Williams missed with a whole lot of shots as well. It almost looked like he was a blind man trying to figure out where the target was. You credit Lara for defense on that issue.

......Be real here people. The Williams corner knew they were down big. In more than just the last round, Williams was told, "you need a knockout."
.....and the expression on the faces of that whole corner was one of desperation.

Late in the fight, Lara was figuratively mopping the floor with Williams, landing anything he wanted.
It got so bad in the 10th and 11th, I thought Williams' dillema was a hopeless one and that because Lara was landing that left at will just jolting Williams' head back, the fight should have been stopped.


Right when the fight ended, Lara celebrated and Williams half heartedly raised his right hand up. Then I saw Dan Goosen climb the ring, and if I'm not mistaken was clapping his hands.

Swear to God at that moment I thought to myself, "aw ****, there is absolutely no way they can give this fight to Williams off of that shellaking."

.....then the scores came across....atschatschatsch:-(


Dont embarass yourself people, there is a reason why all three of these judges have been suspended, and it aint because the ****ing fight was close.

This is one of those fights where there is absolutely no way to interpret the fight going to Williams, absolutely no ****ing way.

Some fights are competitive but not close in the sense that clearly you can tell the winner of most rounds, as was the Marquez-Pacquiao rematch.

......this Williams-Lara fight was neither close or even competetive.

 

It's an agressive sport ffs!
Ur trying to ktfo another person?
It's not a ****ing marathon where u try and potshot eachother to victory.

Looks around for haye and mayweather fans...:yikes

 

LOL, a ******* defending the Williams-Lara decision. It figures.

 

It hurts dont it?

The truth that is?

 

so why is Roach getting criticized for stating his opinion and obvious correct observation?

 

"Freddie Roach Says Judges Sometimes Prefer Aggressive Fighters."

Man, you just can't slip anything by that Freddie Roach, can you?

 

HBO's Harold Lederman is one of these judges that Roach talks about, he gives to much credence and credit to the fighter moving foward that he often times give more credit to that, than the counterpuncher landing cleaner and overall more effective shots.

The perfect example to Lederman's nonsense is his scoring of the first Marquez-Pacquiao fight.
Lederman gave Pacquiao 7 rounds in that fight while 99% of those that had Pacquiao winning that fight both at ringside and at home did'nt give Pacquiao more than 5 rounds.
Hell, 99% of the *******s here cant give Pacquiao more than 5 rounds.


The Williams-Lara fight was so clear and one-sided, Lederman who overcredits fighters that go foward, had Lara winning by a huge margin and was at a loss for words to explain how anyone could have scored for Williams.

What Lederman finally said was that he explained the bad decision to inexperienced judges.

I laughed so hard when Lederman said that as I think what he meant was that the experienced judge at least knows not to tank the fight to a particular fighter when the fight is obviously so onesided that it would be so obvious that there was wrong doing.:nut

 

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