Freddie Roach sounds like he doesn't want Pacquiao to use combinations.......wtf

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by abuffy, Mar 25, 2015.


  1. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i know!!!!!!!! don't throw more than a 2 punch combination!?!?! are u mad!!!!!!!

    maybe he's just making floyd think this is his gameplan though. thinking that maybe floyd then won't prepare for a ton of combinations because of him saying they won't go over 2 punches thrown at a time.

    I really freaking hope so that's all i got to say
     
  2. Mr_Harry

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    I hope roach doesn't over think things.
     
  3. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't take what TB said into account. pac did throw a few long combos when TB was on the ropes BUT if you watch them he landed like 2 shots out of all those thrown.

    AND the fact pac had zero worries about anything coming back his way it negates those combos. if pac throws more than 4 punch combos vs Floyd (assuming floyds not hurt and pac is just finishing him off) pac will get lit up.

    go back and look at those combos vs TB. they were ONLY when TB was against the ropes and he was already gassed with nothing to throw back at pac. those TB fighs have to be thrown in the trash, TB isn't 1 millionth the fighter Floyd is. he doesn't ever belong in the same book as Floyd.

    pac will realize he cant be throwing a bunch of arm shot combos (most of pacs shots are arm punches but that's all he really needs) if he is trying to throw a long combo its going to be a short night for him.

    what we have to do is, throw ALL their previous 100+ combined fights out the window. not one of them means a single thing. you cannot fight Floyd like you fought any of you previous opponents.

    I think people are finally going to see a 100% Floyd, nobody has seen Floyds A game in a pro fight. the toughest times he has had in the ring are from sparring wars. people think he was ready to go vs ssm ? he has been much more hurt in the ring in a few sparring sessions, he always snaps back and becomes a true animal.

    the shock factor will be in affect on 5/2. shocked most will be BUT this fight isn't really competitive unless pac lands the same shot he landed on hatton that put him out, he would need 3/4 of those in a row then it could be lights out.

    much greater chance of pac going to sleep than Floyd. when Floyd sits down on his shots he has more than enough power, people that claim he doesn't are morons that just say what other morons spew on forums.
     
  4. Are you saying that Floyd didn't bring out his "A" game when he was trying to survive Maidana's onslaught for 6 rounds of their first fight?

    :lol:

    Are you saying that Floyd didn't bring out his "A" game heading into the rematch after Team Maidana/Garcia clowned him badly at the press conference?

    :lol:
     
  5. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree, Maidana almost put the L on Floyd.

    Simple formula, corner him and put volume to him.

    It's the cornering part which is concerning for Manny, Maidana couldn't do it in the second fight.
     
  6. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Idc I just want it to be the most competitive fight in the entire world.

    But, I kinda want to see Floyd lose. Not because I hate him, i love him!!!! he's one of my fav fighters!!!! but because I REALLY want to see his reaction to a loss. Like, would he cry? Would he be cool and give Manny props? Would he storm out the stadium!?? What would happen!? It's intriguing to think about, and I wanna know lol
     
  7. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see errors in almost every single paragraph. Lol, but since there are so many astounding errors, I'll give you a chance to correct them first. I'll highlight them.
     
  8. Staminakills

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    in the first fight, he brought his A game for his chin but no not even close to his A game. I understand it as Floyd didn't think much of chino until the end of the first round, he realized then this dude punches like a mule and he realized all the BS in his personal life messed his mind up.

    he wasn't prepared for what chino brought in the first fight. chino came out like a crazy person and landed 3/4 shots that would had KO'd just about any WW and JMW. that right he landed clean on the top left of floyds head was a wakeup call. I was shocked he didn't go down.

    he brought his A survival game in the first fight. that's true greatness, not prepared for what a champ is bringing only to weather the nasty storm and turn it around to get a slight W out of it.

    and the second fight, he brought part of his A game, he didn't bring his I want to make a statement A game. he brought, this dude has true KO power and is the most awkward fighter he ever seen so he brought enough to get the clear win but he didn't attack him to make a statement. he brought his, let me get a clear W out of this and move the phuck on from this crazy person.

    against pac his A game will be, make a statement A game and will be on the attack. pac isn't awkward like the crazy man chino, he can be times perfectly. he does the same exact thing ever single round of every single fight.

    most cant handle the foot and hand speed so they cant do sh!t but take a beating. Floyd will handle anything pac can throw at him and will be able to time the joke of a right double jab, jump forward and try to unleash the straight left. that's his WHOLE offensive ****nal, sorry, one trick pony that's been handled 5, FIVE times on record and really at least 2 more times us fans had seen him handled by jmm.

    you'll see, Floyd will kill him with the straight right left hook, 1,2.

    those 2 shots will be the end of pac and it doesn't even matter which way he throws them, they are perfect for southies. going to be ugly for the true pac fans, the pac cult will just make BS excuses like they been doing since it was signed.

    add in the jab and this is a mismatch
     
  9. acr347

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    When it comes to strategy, you think Freddy is gonna reveal one iota publicly of what they are going to do. Sure he likes to talk, but dude is as wily as they come. Bet on a very, very partial truth or hint at best... As in switching up strategies for a round or 2, or how they may begin, but if anything I'd exoect he's got a plan tha has manny switching strategies 2 or 3 times during be fight. That 2 combo makes academic sense, but is a smokscreen
     
  10. Staminakills

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    ya ok, i'm not writing a paper, I write separated lines so I can actually read whats written.

    I cant go more than 2 lines without everything blending together. errors as in English or errors as in you do not agree ?
     
  11. acr347

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    Lol you're sick abuffy, and he's your favorite fighter. I think he'd have a foreman reaction of deep depression after he lost to Ali, but be fine afterwards. Immediately post fight, I think he'd congratulate... Depending on if he really thought he won or lost. If he lost a contested decision, then he has a right and that's a different story.
     
  12. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    its plausible i mean when may fights orthadox fighters he shoulder rolls an usually comes back with uppercuts during there rally or just waits till they are finished to respond with sharper harder punches. against southpaw he fights alot more aggressive so i can kinda see where roach is coming from but i feel to take away mannys combination punching would be like putting square wheels on a car..
     
  13. Staminakills

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    um, when had pac ever used two different strategies ? he fights one way and I don't think he should try to change it. he has one shot and that is catching Floyd and laying him the phuck out.

    any man no matter what can he KO'd. has nothing to do with how tough you are. its a short circuit of the brain from brain movement inside the head. roach doesn't have a clue what to do. he is 100% offensive trainer, he doesn't even know how to change anything up. one would think JT taught him enough while he let roach watch him spar.

    proof is in the pudding, they fight one way with one offensive attack which will be their demise
     
  14. dangerousity

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    I've seen Pac pummeling that bag, a lot of combos.