Freddie Roach still not in favor of Mayweather’s drug testing for Pacquiao

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  1. sandy mac

    sandy mac Active Member Full Member

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    It is ok for melonhead manny and bobblehead freddy to fight for titles at catchweights? Starve fighters down a few extra pounds to give them the advantage that they need ? team pac have been making thier own rules for too long ! If you have nothing to hide take the tests, make the fight or keep lieing, ducking and cherrypicking !
     
  2. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The commission doesn't say **** about catchweight title fights either.
     
  3. undefeated

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    bobblehead freddy?! :plzdie
     
  4. sandy mac

    sandy mac Active Member Full Member

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    Watch him ! Bobblehead freddie !!
     
  5. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Link or it didn't happen. And the site you did link to has NO credibility at all. I read an article on how Kelly Pavlik had been TKO'd by Hopkins there.
     
  6. ElTrigueno

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    That's all part of standard negotiations. If he wants to add an extra steroid testing to it, then they agree. The same way they agree on the glove type, etc. The weights are 147 lbs and 154 lbs, but so many of their recent fights have been at catchweights, not standard commission weights. With so many of these PED's out there, its tough to know if anyone uses them because those baseball players were getting over on everyone, as was Mosley, and Toney, etc. We've all been on here for over 2 years placing blame on both sides, so I really thought that by name, the fight would have happened, but obviously I've been wrong. I said this last night, but Mayweather and Manny are obviously probably the 2 best fighters at the current time, and everyone else is below them so no matter who these guys fight, as long as it's not each other, it will be looked as a cherrypick. The truth is, no one at 147 or 154 or even 140 would have more than a little hope that they could win.
     
  7. boxon123

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    Do u notice the pieces of garbage on here no longer refer to it as ODST .Go and die you miserable pieces of ****. Image speaking about someone with a disease like that . Morons! OSDT Mayweather style. ROFL . Jr will go down as the biggest avoider of peak opponents in History.
     
  8. KarlBrandt

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    Show me the proof or you are a lying piece of ****.
     
  9. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The point is it is poor and lazy journalism.

    Freddie said no such thing about taking a stand against drug testing, his point is clear - Floyd is not a commission, he is a fighter and Pac is more than happy to follow and comply to the rules set out by Nevada SAC - as he has done his entire USA career.

    Its been two years - Has Floyd even petitioned the NSAC to ammend or change its drug testing policy or is it only because he's thrown the first stone and has to keep up appearances now?

    I am also not a fan of OSDT.

    That means being tested any time of the day or night 365 days a year, not 6 times during a camp.

    It's beyond a joke.
     
  10. sandy mac

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    manny has the melon freddy has the moyion, the bobble twins ! When havecatchweights for titles been part f ny commision's rules ? team bobble make thier own rules and get pissed when someone wants to level the playing field !If the cards are not staccked for them , they cry!
     
  11. Didn't Floyd only make the request because Pac's team decided they wanted a clause that gives them $1million per pound overweight floyd is?

    Floyd agreed without hesitiation and threw back blood/urine testing up until day of fight - and then there has been this farce ever since.

    Says it all.
     
  12. KarlBrandt

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    Floyd is not the commission , Pacquiao is weakened by blood tests , Pacquiao is scared of needles , The nurses sometimes cant find the vein they keep poking and poking and poking and by the time they get the blood out you cant move your arm for 3 days or 4 days and certainly if you are a world class boxer and you cant spar that takes away your ability to perform.
     
  13. Bogotazo

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    I think he's just bitching about it but would give in to testing in terms of negotiations.
     
  14. caneman

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    This is for those who say giving blood for tests does not affect athletic performance.

    Blood tests for drug use involve collecting about 10-20 cc of blood (1-2 vials). 4 of these drug tests will equal 50-100 cc, or about 10% - 20% of a pint of blood given in donations (450cc).


    1. How do periodic reductions in hemoglobin affect an athlete's ability to train?

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    Blood is a complicated tissue with many different roles. When you donate blood, you give up a pint of fluid containing mostly water along with various proteins and cells in solution. During high-intensity endurance activities however, it is hemoglobin, found within our red blood cells, that is most important.

    Hemoglobin delivers oxygen to our tissues, and when we exercise our muscles require increased amounts of oxygen. If we lack sufficient hemoglobin, anaerobic, or without oxygen, metabolism will ensue (producing lactic acid) at even seemingly moderate levels of intensity.

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    , (which is why you may not donate more often than every two months). What then are the lasting effects of this red blood cell loss?


    Assuming that your cardiac output (the amount of blood pumped by the heart) remains constant, a drop in hemoglobin concentration associated with donating blood will reduce your oxygen delivery to working muscles by 10 percent. Still, when you are at rest, or even during moderate levels of exercise, oxygen delivery, even at this decreased capacity, far outpaces demand.

    However, once you reach a heart rate that is around 5 to 10 percent below your usual anaerobic threshold, your body's demand for oxygen will outpace its supply. For example, if your metabolism typically becomes anaerobic at a heart rate of 170, then after donating blood you will become anaerobic at a heart rate of between 157 and 164 beats per minute. This value will fluctuate because your hemoglobin level will be rising slowly each day, thus the most significant effect will be felt in the first few days after donating.

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    10% of 4 weeks is roughly 3 days, the same amount of time Pac complains about not feeling well in training after giving blood for testing hepatitis. :deal


    :)
     
  15. Hermit

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    Not gonna bother with you. Anyone quoting that site is a known idiot.