Freddie Roach:" This could be our last fight"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Samski313, Feb 28, 2010.


  1. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You act like Pac is the only one that makes demands in neogtiations. I guess its because he makes his part of the bargain - Unlike Floyd Marquez for example over catchweight.

    Oscar only had to make 147, don't blame team Pac because his trainers decided he needed to eat Bambi to be "faster". He could have come in at around 160 and had the energy to mount more than two offensive stanza's in the whole fight - But that was Pac's fault.

    I LOVE the revisionist crap that comes up on here everytime Pac's recent fights are discussed. There had to be at LEAST 30 threads talking about what DLH was going to do to Pac ahead of their fight and how Roach was crazy.

    Hatton was destroyed - Is that Pac's fault that Mumbles Mayweather Snr can't drill a fighter on how to defend a left hand?

    Given the first three rounds of the Cotto fight - Was anyone thinking the fight would end up being so one sided? Weight drained my ass, he got beat the hell up and looked worse after Pac than even loaded Margarito gloves made him look after their fight together.

    Floyd COULD have won a tough but fairly pedestrian fight if he didn't freak out. Pac can take the Incredible ****ing Hulk steroids and it's not going to give him the chin or stop cuts happening to keep Floyd from damaging him.

    They won't fix technical issues or adapt to the stylistic nightmare that Floyd presents him, and while people keep harking on and on about how Pac WON'T test - It seems to leave out the fact he said YES to random urine and three perfectly acceptable blood test windows including immediatley after the fight to gauge any concerns from a fighter who has always complied and had no drug accusations made until Snr started making them post Cotto.

    This from a fighter who won't fight in California because he isn't allowed to inject his hands with a numbing drug ahead of his fights.

    Floyd can beat him - He's letting fear stop him and dragging Pac's hard earned rep through the mud at a time when he owes either Golden Boy or the IRS a tonne of Money.

    What a dork. Test shmest - He would have won a comfy 116-112 type of margain against Pac and he simply let his big dumb mouth and big dumb dad ruin it for everyone.

    I hope Pac wins his Clottey fight, no guarantees or surprises from me if he doesn't, and retures - And then Floyd will be even more out of pocket with no options - More fool Floyd.
     
  2. Chris85

    Chris85 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one said anything when floyd retired. I think they said something like let the man enjoy his money :rofl
     
  3. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Mosley, Mayweather or any champ at 154.

    Bradley brings nothing.
     
  4. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Yo big man :

    6 Weight World champion , campaigned across 9 weight divisions
    Including 3 Linear championships
    Twice Ring Magazine fighter of the year
    Ring Magazine fighter of the decade

    And the best coach in boxing in the world currently !!!!!!

    Are bad for boxing :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Go home and put on your Floyd vs Baldomir dvd on and stick a pencil up your arse and pretend its Floyds dick !!!!! :good :deal
     
  5. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I dont think the reception was quite like that , i seem to remember Cotto's name being screemed from the roof tops around that time and an Oscar rematch , not to mention Mosley , Marg etc etc etc .

    The guys a joke , watch this space sugar is gonna take the man out .
     
  6. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    That is so true. Mayweather has all the boxing skills and stylistic advantage to win, but no, he won't be forced to fight Pacquaio in a normal procedure. He wanted a negotiating advantage to the point of painting Pac as this PED user without an iota of evidence.

    What made this fight fell off,btw?

    Mayweather's insistence for that random blood test which he has not required in all of his previous fights.

    If there was no blood test request, we could already have this fight instead of Pac-Clottey...:-(
     
  7. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Doesnt matter Pac has nothing else left to prove in the sport.

    All roads lead to Pacman at this point.
     
  8. sandy mac

    sandy mac Active Member Full Member

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    Freddy and manny almost always set the ground rules.Weight,glove type and size,purse etc.Think about it.They picked Clottey at welterweight because they see him as beatable. Look at pac's body mass.Most fighters who mive up in weight take time.Yet they still look puffy or bloated.pac is ripped.Maybe he is not doing steroids.Whatever he is using is something the others never had.just look at how fast he climbed from 130 to 147 lbs.Loook at Marquez or Duran's build after the gain.See a difference?Big time.pac should have taken the test and fought Floyd.He agreed to B.S testing on given dates.And after the fight,when HGH woukd be flushed out of his system.Not saying he is using ,but his refusal does'nt do much to convince the fans otherwise.Nor do the flip-flopping excuses from team pac.
     
  9. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Pacquiao isn't fond of the idea of adequate drug testing, so... so be it.
     
  10. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Nah. Pacquiao doesn't owe money to anybody that's why he doesn't need to keep fighting.
     
  11. sandy mac

    sandy mac Active Member Full Member

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    Why not take the tests,fight Floyd,then retire?Silence the nay-sayers and the critics?Then retire with a win over Floyd or by going out on his shield. Leave as a hero either way.This is the fight the boxing world wants to see!Face it, Floyd met all of Team Pac.'s demands and signed.All manny had to do was agree to the tests,and take home 40 million.
     
  12. kirk

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    Bradley brings nothing? Hes an undefeated world champion who is clear number one in his weightclass (which is deep) and hes top 15 p4p, and outside of Williams, nobody at 154 brings that kind of heat or momentum as a fighter into a fight with Pac.... add to that that hes a fighter that is there to fight and throws lots of punches and its clearly an entertaining fight.

    Im not going to hold it against pac to fight him or anything, Bradley still probably has a few more fights before hes in the league of fighting superstars, but to say he brings 'nothing' or that 'any champ' at 154 would be a better selection? nah...

    Mosley
    Mayweather
    Bradley

    would be the top 3 guys he should face

    Valero would be fun, but hes probably not deserving of a fight quite yet eather, the winner of a bradley valero fight would be an awsome matchup for Pac.

    154 is pointless.... 140 and 147 are good divisions with plenty of good fighters to choose from.
     
  13. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You guys are delusional to say the least!!!!:-(
     
  14. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Pacquiao would have said **** the bull**** let's fight i will take any test to whip floyd's azz then we wouldnt have Pac vs. Clottey!!!! Mosley showed the whole world how easy it is to shoot down such a ridiculous demand. Pac= tainted in my book!!!
     
  15. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't believe this PR garbage.