freddy roach wanted danny garcia for pacquiao

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  1. ROACH

    ROACH Boxing Addict banned

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    Shut up. I have video evidence of Bradley's head snapping all the way back around.

    So unless you've managed to edit out every video of this occurance on the planet, you have no argument, and I'm not going to engage in some idiotic banter to satisfy your urge to troll.
     
  2. tonys333

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    garcia has had a win against a guy in khan that fights like a amature an cant take a solid punch an a shot morales ye he has power but look at his ko pecentege thats is why khan probs took the fight in the 1st place because they probaly didnt think garcia had that much power an now you people think he can knock out the ellite manny an floyd would both beat him comfortably an both would see that wide left hook comming.
     
  3. ROACH

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    Bradley is a good defensive fighter. He has one of the best aggressive defenses in the game.

    He's also versatile and can box going backwards. He's tallented, but he lacks power and his punching mechanics are not what they should be.

    But his defense, his chin, and his versatility saved him from being a KO victim against Pacquaio.

    If Bradley had power, he would be a superstar.
     
  4. sbbigmike

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    :lol: true

    But There were plenty times in the fight though where Bradley had Manny missing like 7-8 punches in a row, even Sugar Shot Mosley who has questionable D had no problems ducking and slipping Manny's punches, against a counter puncher like Garcia leaving himself open for counters like that he's gonna get countered and hurt bad, if a 40 year old soft hitting JMM could counter Manny and have him apprehensive and he could barely win a round off him, how could someone possibly say he would dominate the young champ, with the power to sleep dudes
     
  5. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bradleys chin is not hard to touch though, I'm still, scratching my head on how Manny couldn't ko him cold
     
  6. ROACH

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    But you got to understand that Mosley didn't do anything to win. He just came to survive. If you're an undersized southpaw going against a guy like Mosley who still can move around the ring pretty well, and has a great chin even if he gets tagged, it's going to be hard to stop a guy.

    As an undersized southpaw, you have to take more risks than a guy like Tommy Hearns for instance or in real life, Vernon Forrest who could use his height and reach and mitigiate some risk.

    JMM is a master boxer. You have to give JMM credit. He used lateral movement, but he also engaged Pacquaio and in a lot of people's eyes, did enough to win the fight.

    I didn't say anything about Pacquaio dominating Garcia, but I think he has a good chance at winning because of the speed aspect.
     
  7. sbbigmike

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    He showed he can deal with Khan speed though, and deliver his own blows



    But Fair argument, no trolling or dickriding on both ends, so much respect




    Truthfully this is the fight I want to see, but Manny is busy fighting JMM again, do fans realize Manny wasted like 2-3 of his career being occupied with JMM:patsch
     
  8. KnuckleUp99

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    Pac's defense is heavy on movement.....he bounces in and out, side to side using angles...Manny is just really unorthodox and Amir has a style that is more of that classic boxer style. His qualities are different than Pac's....Pac has a solid beard which allows him to "bait" opponents like when he uses the high guard against the ropes allowing for his opponents to unload. Amir can't do that because of his liabilities with his chin. Amir needs better defensive fundamentals.....but he can't do anything about his chin
     
  9. Dipset

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    Freddy is a bottom feeder...
     
  10. KnuckleUp99

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    Eh.....he's had a variety of fighters under his tutelage....PAC of course was his most notable fighter who has fought ALL the big names in or around the division he campaigned at.
     
  11. Outboxer

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    Pac is troubled by fighters using movement around the ring (away from his left hand) while countering when Pac falls short or misses. From what I've seen, Garcia doesn't really use that style. He doesn't use the evasive movement that is critical to keeping Pac off balance, and when he counters he aims to bomb the other guy out with one shot while planting his feet rather than slowly picking them apart. Garcia stands his ground and punches in the middle of his opponent's attack with a looping hook over the top -- that is a great strategy against someone like Khan, who is stiff and upright, has bad punch resistance and loves to throw light flurries, but it's the wrong move against Pac.

    One straight left from Pac can put you on the canvas, so simply standing flat-footed and throwing a haymaker while he comes in is very risky. It could end up backfiring horribly. The best thing to do is to move, make him fall short, and then pick him apart:

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  12. sbbigmike

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    :patsch

    Margarito hit Manny 229 times, with his cement feet ass, I don't want to hear that ****, if anything Garcia, with his highly educated counter punching/stalking style would be all wrong for Manny




    Manny D looked good in onlt 2 fights vs those skeletons Hatton and ODH, and now people seem to think he's a defensive specialist abut but but but only JMM could dominate him like that, cause of his movement:patsch...................., he's a damn good fighter, great matter of fact but his d aint **** and shouldn't be brought up when discussing theoretical matches with him
     
  13. Outboxer

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    I'm not saying that Pac has a great defence. I'm saying that Garcia's counterpunching style (from what little I've seen of him) wouldn't work well against someone like Pac. I'm not even sure why you brought up the issue of Pac's defence, because I don't think I even mentioned it in my post.
     
  14. bjl12

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    Yeah. It's just you. Garcia is approximately 3-4 years out even remotely being ready for Manny/Mayweather consideration (and they're both gone by then).
     
  15. Cormega

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    How many times did that happen? Once or twice? You said Bradley's head was snapping around like the exorcist when he engaged, as if to imply that this was a common theme throughout the fight. It wasn't. Pacquiao spent the majority of the 36 minutes hitting nothing but air. Like I said, *******s have already posted pics of literally every clean, flush punch he landed in the fight, and there weren't many at all.